Re: [internal-projects] [Debian-multimedia] Start an official internal project!
>>>>> "rh" == Raphael Hertzog <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
rh> Le Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 02:38:07PM -0400,
rh> email@example.com écrivait:
>> Of course, *if* we decide to integrate DeMuDi into Debian, we
>> will follow all Debian rules, that's obvious (and I don't think
>> there would be any way of not doing it, even if we wanted to do
>> it, which is not the case).
rh> Debian rules are not constraining. They are the result of a
rh> long history ... and you still do have your own choice to
rh> do. I mean "rules" evolve ... because people are doing things
Agreed. Anyway, as I understood Debian structures from my readings,
an official change in Debian rules (*if* we wanted to push such a
change, something that in my opinion is both difficult and
undesiderable) is not something that can cope with the schedules we
have to face.
>> many reasons why we could decide that way, some technical and
>> some political, such as the fact the DeMuDi is an official
>> European Project and as such has a number of responsibilities
>> which Debian fortunately doesn't have) then a separate
>> structure, both tecnical and organizative, is due. I'm trying
>> hard to find a way such as that, in
rh> Please elaborate, I'm interested in that. In particular since
rh> DebianEdu may also look for european funding in the future ...
Basically it all boils down to schedules (and you already suggested a
possible way, which seems good to me, to overcome that) and
relationships with other partners in the project. If, for example,
Debian rules say that a package is not ammissible but other partners
say it is and push for this package to be a part of DeMuDi, it makes a
big difference whether DeMuDi is an "official" part of Debian or is a
separate project which tries to live as happily as possible with
Debian. This is simply an example, although I think it's an
appropriate one. And it's not even said that such an example would
ever happen, but both because of my personal attitude and because I
have a binding contract with Tempo Reale (and consequently with the
EU) I wish to avoid any possible problem that could arise as much as
I don't think that an integration with Debian is impossible, and I
think that Marco proposal, modulo the confusion that it caused about
who was going to to what, is a very good step in this direction.
rh> BTW, you should not try too much to protect maintainers from
rh> demudi specific bugs ... you don't have people people to
rh> filter all bugs on your own. Let the maintainer do his work
rh> but please make sure to respond to maintainers request when
rh> they come and say "look, i received this bug report wrt
rh> demudi, i don't know anything about that, can you help me?".
Would this be feasible? My worst fear is that developers get reports
coming from DeMuDi and react badly to the submitter. From their point
of view, they are quite right, because the package is not part of an
official Debian distribution (be it sid, sarge, woody or
loolapalooza). From my point of view, that would a pity for DeMuDi.
Andrea Glorioso firstname.lastname@example.org
Centro Tempo Reale http://www.centrotemporeale.it/
AGNULA/DeMuDi Technical Manager http://www.[demudi|agnula].org/
"There's no free expression without control on the tools you use"