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Re: Debian cloud images for OpenStack?

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> wrote:
> The usual:
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> On 07/15/2013 02:39 PM, Chris Fordham wrote:
>> Checking it out, cloud-init on LP does not include any service control
>> scripts.
> By "service control", do you mean startup script? If so, it does, for
> both upstart and sysv-rc.
>> Can someone refer what the upstream source is (URLs please) for the
>> current packages in Ubuntu and Debian?
> https://launchpad.net/cloud-init/trunk/0.7.2/+download/cloud-init-0.7.2.tar.gz
> contains a sysvinit folder containing some init scripts.
>> Does the package maintainer only
>> have these to put in the package?
> What do you mean? As discussed, I have been using scripts in the debian
> folder, not the ones in the upstream source tree, which are adapted for
> CentOS.
>> I like the concept of having a separate repository for service control
>> of a software title.
> What do you mean?
>> It means its separated from the software itself,
>> very accessible and can be version controlled and managed upstream just
>> like the software itself.
> Upstream wont care much about sysv-rc script, since they use upstart.

Not necessarily. True, they don't use it in Ubuntu but a lot of work
has recently gone into making cloud-init distro-agnostic and upstream
is certainly not pushing back on distro-specific init scripts.

> What we do in Debian is using SVN on Alioth, so it really is using a
> VCS, no problem with that. To me, having to upstream the Debian init
> script is just some added useless work with no benefits at all. Anyone
> who has a different opinion (and do not work on the package) shouldn't
> spend time discussing the issue in this list (this is pointless), and
> work on upstreaming the init scripts. I would really appreciate if
> someone did. This is just a mater of opening a bug in Launchpad I guess,
> and attaching the Debian init scripts.

I can do that. I've provided patches to cloud-init in the past and
know the process and the maintainer. Did you make modifications to the
scripts that I attached to
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709173? If so, can
you send them to me and I'll start the process of pushing them


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