Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

[Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>]

On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 22:02 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 21:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 12:13 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 01:07:55PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +0000, Iain M Conochie wrote:
> > > > > > > Gazing into my crystal ball, there will be a 3D interface that will
> > > > > > > blow us all away, and the kids will laugh at us for using a mouse /
> > > > > > > keyboard.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Not necessarily! We eat using classic knifes since several hundred years
> > > > > > and btw. a good knife isn't produced by a computer controlled machine,
> > > > > > but handcrafted by a craftsman.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But these, sure as hell, aren't sold in grocery stores.
> > > > 
> > > > Correct! And I suspect that it isn't allowed to sell and buy a good
> > > > knife in Germany anymore without a "firearms licence" (this joke doesn't
> > > > work in German, we don't have a "firearms licence", here it's called
> > > > "weapon license"). IOW to get a good pastry chef's knife you need the
> > > > same "weapon license" you need for a katana or pump gun. So people are
> > > > used to use carp to cut a steak and they win the impression, that
> > > > computer controlled machines can punch out good tools ... they simply
> > > > don't know how good the quality of tools was just a few decades ago and
> > > > they believe all the hype that in the digital age everything is better.
> > > > It simply isn't better, quality of technology nowadays is as worse as it
> > > > never was before, let alone social quality. When did they build the
> > > > first katana ;)?
> > > 
> > > This really belongs on the OT list but I'll reply anyway.
> > > 
> > > Ralph, do you think monks in a Carpathian monastery lovingly hand
> > > crafting parts can maintain the same tolerances as CNC machinery can? Or
> > > are you against interchangeability? Assuming they could hold these
> > > tolerances, how many people/companies could/would pay for them?
> > > 
> > > Face it. You can only take this "good old days" schtik so far.
> > 
> > Why does a manually wound coil for guitars does sound better than a
> > mechanically wounded coil does? The mechanically wound coil is more
> > precise! Don't underestimate human touch. The human brain is a
> > super-computer, no computer build by humans is able to compare with our
> > brains.
> 
> PS:
> 
> Do you ask a computer to compute who is the best person to be the
> perfect boy/girl-friend? Is intuition less or more substantial?
> 
> If humans would be aware to program a CNC machine perfectly, they
> perhaps could be better or at least equal to human work, but we are
> unable to do it.
> 
> Humans "feel" the right point, a computer doesn't.

Sorry, for the PPS, but I worked with CNC machines.

CNC machines need to sense the surface as human need to do, but they
don't have that perfect senses as humans have got.

We aren't talking just about measurements, but about assessment, math
interpolation can't compare to human knowledge/feeling.

Is there any computer able to produce just a simple pop song that
reaches the top ten? A computer is able to produce a jazz, rock,
classical style song, but not able to touch human emotions.

So are you saying computers are better than humans?