Re: Request to remove Information
Ron Johnson said...
> On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 18:24 +0000, marc wrote:
> > Ron Johnson said...
> > > On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 06:34 +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > > > Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On (20/11/05 22:08), Katipo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > [snip]
> [snip]
> > >
> > > Man, after all is a social creature, and "individualism" is a
> > > relatively new concept. European peasants would not understand
> > > it, and "The nail that sticks up will be hammered down" has been
> > > a Japanese proverb for hundreds of years.
> >
> > "The liberty of the individual is no gift of civilization. It was
> > greatest before there was any civilization, though then, it is true, it
> > had for the most part no value, since the individual was scarcely in a
> > position to defend it. The development of civilization imposes
> > restrictions on it, and justice demands that no one shall escape those
> > restrictions."
>
> I scoff at this idea. The human banished from a pre-civ hunter-
> gatherer group was in a *world* of trouble. Life was too precarious
> and difficult.
>
> > Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents, 1929
>
> He was a psychiatrist[0], why should I believe anything he wrote.
<sigh> The idea was to alert you to the fact that you brushed aside
centuries of study in this matter. It wasn't a statement of fact.
Believe what you will.
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Best,
Marc
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