Re: Request to remove Information
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 18:24 +0000, marc wrote:
> Ron Johnson said...
> > On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 06:34 +0800, Katipo wrote:
> > > Clive Menzies wrote:
> > >
> > > >On (20/11/05 22:08), Katipo wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Clive Menzies wrote:
> > [snip]
[snip]
> >
> > Man, after all is a social creature, and "individualism" is a
> > relatively new concept. European peasants would not understand
> > it, and "The nail that sticks up will be hammered down" has been
> > a Japanese proverb for hundreds of years.
>
> "The liberty of the individual is no gift of civilization. It was
> greatest before there was any civilization, though then, it is true, it
> had for the most part no value, since the individual was scarcely in a
> position to defend it. The development of civilization imposes
> restrictions on it, and justice demands that no one shall escape those
> restrictions."
I scoff at this idea. The human banished from a pre-civ hunter-
gatherer group was in a *world* of trouble. Life was too precarious
and difficult.
> Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents, 1929
He was a psychiatrist[0], why should I believe anything he wrote.
[0] Technically, a neurologist, mainly because there was no such
thing as psychiatry back then.
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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson, LA USA
"Never for the sake of peace and quiet deny your convictions."
Dag Hammarskjold
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