Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org

[Katipo <katipo@weavers-web.org>]

William Ballard wrote:

>  On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 12:44:21PM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:00:22PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> >
> >> I read the Koran after 9/11 and found some bits very hostile to
> >> Christianity and Jews. The basic plot is: God used to like Jews,
> >> now he doesn't because they messed up. God used to like
> >> Christians, now he doesn't because they messed up. We're going
> >> to fix what they messed up.
> >
> > This is also untrue. The Quran says:
> >
> > Surely those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, the
> > converts; anyone who (1) believes in God, and (2) believes in the
> > hereafter, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their
> > recompense from their Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will
> > they grieve. [ 2:62, 5:69 ]
>
>
>  The Koran says a whole lot of stuff. Basically it's the John Kerry
>  of religious texts. There's some bits in there about one must avoid
>  ones enemy,

This sounds like plain common sense and good policy.

>  and watch out for the Jews and Christians they will try to mess with
>  you.

It does have one or two negative references to Jews, as I have already said.
I can not recall anything negative in regard to Christians.
Please provide a reference.

>  My neck hair gets all bristly until when I meet people who deny this.
>  It's like -- what's THIS guy trying to hide?

The only one who obviously has something to hide is the one who can't 
provide viable reference to substantiate claims.
This is the sort of emotive claptrap that sends people off to war to no 
*good* purpose.
*Please* substantiate your claims so that we can all share in the knowledge.
Regards,

David.