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At 03:03 PM 9/07/98 -0000, you wrote:
>debian-user-digest Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 630
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>Today's Topics:
>	 Re: Irritating ^H and double characters in documentation
>	 Re: Irritating ^H and double characters in documentation 
>	 Re: unsubscribe "helper line"
>	 Re: File managers ??............
>	 xterm-debian exported as terminal type
>	 FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working
>	 Pine 4.00 termcap
>	 Re: Pine 4.00 termcap
>	 Re: FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working
>	 Re: Pine 4.00 termcap
>	 Re: unsubscribe "helper line"
>	 Re: xfstt
>	 Re: Pine 4.00 termcap(Pine in Debian?)
>	 Re: xterm-debian exported as terminal type
>	 More repartioning
>	 REPOST where is /usr/bin/rpc.bootparamd?
>	 Re: xfstt startup issue
>	 Re: xfstt
>	 Re: [off topic] Slashdot announce 2.0beta2
>	 Re: Pine 4.00 termcap(Pine in Debian?)
>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:56:09 +0200
>From: jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl
>To: jhspies@alpha.futurenet.co.za
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Irritating ^H and double characters in documentation
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980709145609.59873@wi.leidenuniv.nl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 03:01:43PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
>> Several documentation files on the 1.3.1 distribution contains text like
>> this from the Afterstep FAQ:
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> 11..  GGeenneerraalliinnffoorrmmaattiioonn
>
>This is *roff-style bold, which several programs (e.g. less, mutt)
>understand.
>
>> Is there a quick way to correct this?
>
>You can filter them through "col -b".
>
>HTH,
>Ray
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>Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:20:56 +0100
>From: "Oliver Elphick" <olly@lfix.co.uk>
>To: Johann Spies <jhspies@alpha.futurenet.co.za>
>cc: Debian-poslys <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: Irritating ^H and double characters in documentation 
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 199807091320.OAA15144@linda.lfix.co.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>Johann Spies wrote:
>  >Several documentation files on the 1.3.1 distribution contains text
>  >like this from the Afterstep FAQ:
>  >-----------------------------------------------
>  >11..  GGeenneerraalliinnffoorrmmaattiioonn
>...
>  >Is there a quick way to correct this?
>
>sed -e '//s/\(.\)./\1/g' < infile > outfile
>
>The  is actually ctrl-h (backspace).  To type it in as a real character
>at the terminal, you will have to precede it with ctrl-v.
>
>
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>      desired of him."            I John 5:14,15
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:27:06 -0400
>From: Jeff Schreiber <schreiber@process.com>
>To: pann@agora.rdrop.com
>CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org, schreiber@process.com
>Subject: Re: unsubscribe "helper line"
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 009C8EA4.343E6F5D.11@process.com>
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>Pann McCuaig <pann@agora.rdrop.com> writes:
>>
>>> Does this message strike anyone as significantly less helpful than the
>>> former "mail a message with the subject "unsubscribe" to
>>> debian-user-request@lists.debian.org" message?  I'll grant you that
>>> people screwed that up too, but this seems to be asking for people to
>>> get confused.
>>
>>I'm with you. I think a larger subset of folks will screw this up. I'm sure
>>it's an attempt to save a bit of bandwidth, but . . .
>
>    Personally I think it's cool.  99% of the unsubscribe problems [on the
>    lists I run at least] are 1) Not knowing where to send the request and
>    2) not knowing how to spell unsubscribe.  While the syntax of the trailer
>    is sort of catered to those that at least have a couple braincells and
>    probably don't need it, it still gives the two important parts:
>
>        unsubscribe
>        debian-user-reqest@lists.debian.org
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>    That's all you really need to say.
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:51:42 +0100 (BST)
>From: "C.J.LAWSON" <C.J.Lawson@Cranfield.ac.uk>
>To: phillip Neumann <huevadas@hotmail.com>
>cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: File managers ??............
>Message-ID:
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>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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>Try the midnight commander I think the current version is mc-4.0.5.tar.gz
>or more
>
>> Hi....
>> 
>>    Im wonder the power of my linux system. But Im still browsing my 
>> computer only with the "ls" command. Can you people recomend me a good 
>> file manager ??? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Phillip Neumann
>> --------------------------> filsin@hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 09:01:02 -0500
>From: "Richard E. Hawkins Esq." <hawk@eyry.econ.iastate.edu>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: xterm-debian exported as terminal type
>Message-Id: <[🔎] m0yuHFx-000sipC@eyry.econ.iastate.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>I'm not sure exactly when this started, but it seems to have been shortly 
>after the freeze.
>
>When I telnet to another machine with an xterm (e.g., "xterm -e telnet
abc.def 
>&"), it informs the remote machine that terminal type is "xterm-debian"
rather 
>than "xterm".  Other machines do not recognize this, and resort to dumb 
>terminal settings.
>
>I've tried setting TERM to xterm, and tried an export in my .xsession to no 
>avail.
>
>Does anyone have a solution?
>
>rick
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:39:37 -0400 (EDT)
>From: <tko@westgac3.dragon.com>
>To: <liiwi@lonesom.pp.fi>
>CC: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working
>Message-ID: <[🔎] m0yuGvB-0007zXC@westgac3.dragon.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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>Jaakko Niemi writes:
>>  Check that you did include support for IDE/ATAPI cd-roms and enchanced
>>   IDE/MMF/RLL support. Also check that did you include support for SCSI-
>>  emulation. 
>> 
>>  One thing could be that some card goes to irq 15 in boot and messes things
>>  up.
>> 
>>  If those do not help, try .34. 
>
>Jaakko, I want to thank you for hanging in there. I swapped /dev/hdb (hard
>drive slave on primary bus) for /dev/hdc (cdrom master on secondary bus). Two
>things have become self-evident:
>
>1) If the kernel does not see any valid devices on the secondary IDE bus, the
>kernel will disable the bus (this fact was unknown to me)
>
>2) Some CDrom drives prefer to be slave drives and do not properly respond
>to the kernel's inquiry when jumpered as a master drive (again, an unknown 
>fact)
>
>Full use of my system has now been restored and perhaps the members of the
>debian-user list will benefit from this experience.
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:13:29 -0500 (CWT)
>From: Tim Buller <buller@math.ukans.edu>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Pine 4.00 termcap
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.980709091103.212E-100000@oin>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to
>link in libtermcap.a, which is not a part of the termcap-compat package.
>
>A quick search on the web interface shows no libtermcap.a for hamm, but
>usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libtermcap.a in the devel/libc4-dev package for bo.
>
>Is there a package for hamm that has this compatibility lib? Or any
>suggestions how to get around it in pine compile?
>
>	Tim
>
>====
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:21:40 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Will Lowe <harpo@UDel.Edu>
>To: Tim Buller <buller@math.ukans.edu>
>cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 termcap
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.SOL.3.96.980709101636.14542A-100000@copland.udel.edu>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>> I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to
>> link in libtermcap.a, which is not a part of the termcap-compat package.
>> A quick search on the web interface shows no libtermcap.a for hamm, but
>> usr/i486-linuxaout/lib/libtermcap.a in the devel/libc4-dev package for bo.
>
>As I understand things,  libc4 doesn't compile with recent development
>tools,  so it's been dropped from hamm,  because debian policy requires
>that all current debian packages be compilable in our current development
>environment.
>
>why don't you take a look at the current debian pine package and see what
>it uses instead?
>                     					Will
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:25:16 +0100 (BST)
>From: "C.J.LAWSON" <C.J.Lawson@Cranfield.ac.uk>
>To: tko@westgac3.dragon.com
>cc: liiwi@lonesom.pp.fi, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: FIXED IT! - IDE stopped working
>Message-ID:
<[🔎] Pine.OSF.3.95.980709152438.8896G-100000@robin.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998 tko@westgac3.dragon.com wrote:
>
>> 2) Some CDrom drives prefer to be slave drives and do not properly respond
>> to the kernel's inquiry when jumpered as a master drive (again, an unknown 
>> fact)
>Humm, that explains ... 
>	thanks 
>		Jon.
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:59 +0200
>From: jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl
>To: buller@math.ukans.edu
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 termcap
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980709161459.28914@wi.leidenuniv.nl>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 09:13:29AM -0500, Tim Buller wrote:
>> I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to
>> link in libtermcap.a, which is not a part of the termcap-compat package.
>
>libtermcap is obsolete for about three years now. libncurses should be used
>instead (replace -ltermcap by -lncurses).
>
>HTH,
>Ray
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>to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
>UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS.     
>- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan  
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:27:17 -0400
>From: "Marsh Ray" <marsh_du@ad-hoc.gainesville.fl.us>
>To: "Debian Users" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: unsubscribe "helper line"
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 03da01bdab45$ad42c810$0901a8c0@uke.ad-hoc.gainesville.fl.us>
>Content-Type: text/plain;
>	charset="iso-8859-1"
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>On Thu, Jul 09, 1998 at 01:50:13AM -0400, Daniel Martin at cush wrote:
>>
>>>> Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe debian-user-request@lists.debian.org <
>/dev/null
>>
>>> Does this message strike anyone as significantly less helpful than the
>>> former "mail a message with the subject "unsubscribe" to
>>> debian-user-request@lists.debian.org" message?  I'll grant you that
>>> people screwed that up too, but this seems to be asking for people to
>>> get confused.
>
>
>Let's keep in mind that many folks won't be reading this
>list on a Debian (or even Linux) system.  However, we must not
>judge them for this, we can only pity them, for the wheels of
>destiny have inflicted many a misfortune upon otherwise noble souls.
>
>However, if the unsubscription instructions aren't "cross-platform",
>people are sure to start posting in frustration to the list itself.
>
>- Marsh
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:33:39 -0400
>From: "Stephen J. Carpenter" <sjc@debian.org>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: xfstt
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980709103339.A2711@mgh.harvard.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 07:16:45PM +0300, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>> >> I have xfstt font server thing installed and functioning. I was just 
>> >> wondering if I can have that load on boot. If so which file do I edit.
>> 
>>  Check that you have '/etc/init.d/xfstt' and appropriate links pointing in
>>  /etc/rc*.d . For example 'etc/rc2.d/S20xfstt' where xfstt is started at 
>>  runlevel 2. The number is a priority, for getting things started in right
>>  order, for example netbase with 18 means it will be started before 
>>  exim with 20. 
>
>Just a note:
>as of xfstt 0.9.8-1 the package contains an init.d script and starts
>automatically on boot. The current version is in unstable and is
>0.9.9 ..it fixes some bugs...a word to the wise tho....
>I had to change some of its defaults to match policy and make things
>work.
>(ie. it now looks for fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype instead of
>the ugly /var/ttfonts) You will need to move it yerself (if it finds
>a /var/ttfonts you will be warned however)
>also...
>in that version /etc/init.d/xfstt is not a conffile (oops) that will be
>fixed RSN (just one other bug I wanna fix with it) also...watch out
>in the next version commingout...
>to fix a conflict with xfs I am changing the default port from
>7100 to 7101...but thats just what to watch for in the future ;)
>
>BTW 0.9.9 is also easier on memory allocation and fixes a bug there
>-Steve
>
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>public scrutiny and weaken it to the point where the entire key space
>can be searched in 3 days"
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:25:39 -0500
>From: Mark Mealman <mmealman@concentric.net (no_spam)>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 termcap(Pine in Debian?)
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 98070909453700.06656@winter.ashbrokeragecorp.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998, Tim Buller wrote:
>>I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to
>
>Is there any truth to the rumor that Debian's dist won't include pine because
>of some restrictions in the license put out by Washington state?
>
>Washington's license doesn't seem any more restrictive than other public
domain
>licenses.
>
>Mark
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:30:09 +0200 (NST)
>From: joost@pc47.mpn.cp.philips.com
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, rhawkins@iastate.edu
>Subject: Re: xterm-debian exported as terminal type
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.980709162228.5396G-100000@pc47.mpn.cp.philips.com>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure exactly when this started, but it seems to have been shortly 
>> after the freeze.
>
>Since the latest XFree86 packages to be more precise.
>
>> When I telnet to another machine with an xterm (e.g., "xterm -e telnet
abc.def 
>> &"), it informs the remote machine that terminal type is "xterm-debian"
rather 
>> than "xterm".  Other machines do not recognize this, and resort to dumb 
>> terminal settings.
>
>It also annoys me a lot, but it appears that there are higher powers at
>work here.  IIRC it is some sort of policy even and it is related to the
>problems that Debian has been having with keymappings in xterms.  At
>least the backspace key works for me now.   
>
>> I've tried setting TERM to xterm, and tried an export in my .xsession to
no 
>> avail.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a solution?
>
>Try "xterm -e TERM=xterm telnet abc.def" as a short "term" kludge.
>Another option is to globally alias telnet to "TERM=xterm telnet".
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>
>Joost
>
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>Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 22:53:40 +0800
>From: Ivan <ivan@vianet.net.au>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: More repartioning
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 3.0.5.32.19980709225340.0079fd30@pop.vianet.net.au>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Sorry for the brevity of my last message !
>
>The answer I received is to use Partition Magic and hope for luck but I was
>under the impression that this applied only to windoze partitions.
>
>On my system I have a windoze part. & a Linux part.
>
>Linux currently occupies ~1G which I want to split into two Linux
>partitions - is the case that I need Partition Magic for this purpose as
>well ?
>
>Your assistance is appreciated.
>
>Ivan.
>
>
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:50:10 +0000
>From: "Hilton Fernandes" <hfernandes@geocities.com>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>CC: "Hilton Fernandes" <hfernandes@mail.geocities.com>
>Subject: REPOST where is /usr/bin/rpc.bootparamd?
>Message-Id: <[🔎] 199807091451.HAA06036@geocities.com>
>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>
>REPOST:
>
>Dear Debian users,
>
>I'm installing Debian Linux 1.3.1 the hard way, package by package, floppy by
>floppy.  Yes, i'm a masochist! :-)  But it is very instructive, since i have
>never installed any Linux in my life. :-( The PC i'm trying to do this is a
>dusty 486, w/o any network connections and w/o a CD-ROM.
>
>I'd like to make it run LAM MPI, a message-passing environment for
workstation
>networks, in single node mode.  LAM MPI needs some TCP/IP services that i
>tried to provide with the packages netbase and netstd.  The fact is it
>complains about a missing /usr/bin/rpc.bootparamd.  Since i couldn't find
it in
>any package, i guess it is in the installation packages; possibly a
misinformed
>answer to an installation question prevented it from being installed.
However,
>i don't know which is the package that rpc.bootparamd belongs to, and
wouldn't
>like to install everything again, for obvious reasons. :-)
>
>So, my two questions are: 
>
>1) is the above exposition true?  Does rpc.bootparamd really lie in some base
>package that belongs to the installation?  
>
>2) how can i install it w/o having to reinstall everything i have in my dusty
>and trusty 486 computer?
>
>BTW two hurrahs for Debian Linux: 
>
>1) Debian is really easy to install.  Maybe even easier than Windows 95.  And
>has a more intelligent installer, i'm sure. 
>
>2) The dusty and trusty 486 was not a good computer to run Win95, but it
had its
>revival: it runs Linux very fast!
>
>I thank you in advance!
>
>
>Regards,
>--Hilton
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:00:45 -0400
>From: "Stephen J. Carpenter" <sjc@debian.org>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: xfstt startup issue
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980709110045.B2711@mgh.harvard.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 09:57:13PM -0700, Bill Bell wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Sorry I do not have the original message to respond to.  I have just 
>> moved from debian-user-digest to debian-user.  I may have missed the 
>> last day of this thread.
>
>It is ok :)
>
>> I also am using xfstt to serve my TrueType fonts.  It is not all that 
>> bad a package.  Problem is there is no startup with the Xfstt 0.9.7.  
>> Documentation is almost none.  I am running an up-to-date Hamm system.
>
>I would recommend checking out xfstt 0.9.9 which is in slink (unstable)
>
>> So here is my very first hack.
>> 
>> I used the /etc/init.d/xfs for a base and created the file 
>> /etc/init.d/xfstt, (bottom of message).
>
>I did that too initally...then ended up just re-writting myself 
>(I am the xfstt maintainer BTW) This was done in version 0.9.8 
>and is still in in 0.9.9 (with some tweaking)
>
>NB: There is a bug in 0.9.9! /etc/init.d/xfstt is NOT a conffile 
>(will be fixed RSN...within a few days...sorry...lately ive been forced
>to have a "social life") so if you install it you will loose your version 
>unless you back it up...sorry 
>
>> I modifid /etc/X11/config to mirror the xfs entry.  I used XFSTT in 
>> upper-case here due to test conflicts between the init.d xfs and xfstt 
>> scripts. (bad hacking)
>
>in the NEXT version I will also be moving the port number of xfstt to
>7101 to avoid the conflict with xfs (it is already using 
>/usr/share/fonts/truetype instead of /var/ttfonts)
>
>> Then using the "SysV Init Editor" in KDE I added the xfstt just below 
>> the xfs lines.  xfstt needs be running before xdm, (in my case anyway).
>
>Yes...This is because your font server is looking
>for xfstt because it is a hard coded font path. The X Server panics when
>it can't connect...I call that an X Server bug myself...
>(BTW the latest version also allows multiple simultaneous connections)
>
>> This was just a quick fix.  If someone would like to tune this up I 
>> would be greatfull.  This worked for me.  Please use it carefully.  I 
>> did lock my system hard if xfstt was not running when xdm starts up!
>
>just be carefull...back up your files and try the latest version and
>let me know what you think of how I did it....any suggestions
>are apreciated
>-Steve
>
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>public scrutiny and weaken it to the point where the entire key space
>can be searched in 3 days"
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>Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 07:54:55 PDT
>From: "Bill Bell" <whbell@hotmail.com>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: xfstt
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980709145455.26775.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:33:39 -0400
>>From: "Stephen J. Carpenter" <sjc@debian.org>
>>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>Subject: Re: xfstt
>>
>>On Wed, Jul 08, 1998 at 07:16:45PM +0300, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
>>> >> I have xfstt font server thing installed and functioning. I was 
>just 
>>> >> wondering if I can have that load on boot. If so which file do I 
>edit.
>>> 
>>>  Check that you have '/etc/init.d/xfstt' and appropriate links 
>pointing in
>>>  /etc/rc*.d . For example 'etc/rc2.d/S20xfstt' where xfstt is started 
>at 
>>>  runlevel 2. The number is a priority, for getting things started in 
>right
>>>  order, for example netbase with 18 means it will be started before 
>>>  exim with 20. 
>>
>>Just a note:
>>as of xfstt 0.9.8-1 the package contains an init.d script and starts
>>automatically on boot. The current version is in unstable and is
>>0.9.9 ..it fixes some bugs...a word to the wise tho....
>>I had to change some of its defaults to match policy and make things
>>work.
>>(ie. it now looks for fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype instead of
>>the ugly /var/ttfonts) You will need to move it yerself (if it finds
>>a /var/ttfonts you will be warned however)
>>also...
>>in that version /etc/init.d/xfstt is not a conffile (oops) that will be
>>fixed RSN (just one other bug I wanna fix with it) also...watch out
>>in the next version commingout...
>>to fix a conflict with xfs I am changing the default port from
>>7100 to 7101...but thats just what to watch for in the future ;)
>>
>>BTW 0.9.9 is also easier on memory allocation and fixes a bug there
>>-Steve
>>
>>-- 
>>/* -- Stephen Carpenter <sjc@delphi.com> ------------------------------ 
>*/
>>A favorite quote from a source I forget:
>>"Only Microsoft can take an algorithim that has been under years of
>>public scrutiny and weaken it to the point where the entire key space
>>can be searched in 3 days"
>>
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>Will there be a more current version of xfstt in Debian 2.0?  I have 
>been staying out of slink until I have a better handle on everything.  
>xfstt 0.9.7-1 is the version I am seeing in Hamm today.
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Bell
>a Linux newbee
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:53:49 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Brandon Mitchell <bhmit1@mail.wm.edu>
>To: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
>cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: [off topic] Slashdot announce 2.0beta2
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.980709105039.30392A-100000@cnhobbes.ml.org>
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>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Philip Hands wrote:
>
>> I needed to create some new CD images, because enough new bug fixes had
hit 
>> the archive to make it worthwhile, and if I do that I have to
differentiate 
>> the versions somehow: hence a directory name of 2.0beta1 for the first lot,
>> and 2.0beta2 for the second.
>[snip]
>> That said, it seems reasonable to say that Debian 2.0 is into it's
second phase 
>> of testing.  It's just that there wasn't an ``official'' delineation
between 
>> 2.0beta and 2.0beta2 (except by me choosing a particular moment to
freeze my 
>> mirror)
>
>Why not date the betas?  I think everyone knows what is happening when you
>do this, and they aren't left wondering when the heck beta2 came out when
>the name is 2.0-beta-1998-7-9.
>
>Just a thought,
>Brandon
>
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>Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:59:14 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Brandon Mitchell <bhmit1@mail.wm.edu>
>To: Mark Mealman <mmealman@concentric.net>
>cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 termcap(Pine in Debian?)
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.980709105755.30392B-100000@cnhobbes.ml.org>
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>On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Mark Mealman wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Jul 1998, Tim Buller wrote:
>> >I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 on a hamm/i386 system, and it wants to
>> 
>> Is there any truth to the rumor that Debian's dist won't include pine
because
>> of some restrictions in the license put out by Washington state?
>
>We don't distribute pine binaries, but there is a src and diff package
>that should make building a deb for yourself very easy.
>
>> Washington's license doesn't seem any more restrictive than other public
domain
>> licenses.
>
>I believe it prohibited distribution of modified binaries.
>
>HTH,
>Brandon
>
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