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Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:50:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:

> Please provide an URL to the place where Knoppix and Morphix
>    "provide free software in .deb format"
> in a comparable amount to Ubuntus universe.

This is the first time that you have mentioned the amount as a criteria in
this discussion.  However, I fail to see what the point is here, whether a
repository includes one package or 1,000 packages.

> >Those organizations package free software in Debian format and distribute
> >it.
> Where can I have the slightes sign, that they *package* software which is
> just packaged inside Debian and provide these packages anywhere in a
> apt-get accessible archive?


> >In most instances, the packages which are specific to these derivatives
> >have not been incorporated into Debian.
> Well, at least Klaus Knopper - please I talked to him personally in our
> mother language - is convinced that this integration would be great.
> Unfortunately there are real live issues which did not made this happen.

I would be interested to know what the real live issues are, and whether
they apply only to Knoppix or to other derivatives as well.

> >Certainly you are aware of this, since you refer to work you have done to
> >try to incorporate these extensions, so I don't understand your earlier
> >statement that you were not aware of the existence of such projects, nor
> >do I understand why you seem to imply that Ubuntu should be treated
> >differently in this respect.
> I was not aware and I am not aware of archives which store a really large
> amount of software in Deb format by just duplicating packages available in
> the Debian archive in source.  The examples you gave were very weak and
> BTW, even if there would be tons of examples: I fail to see the reason why
> there should be something else which is just duplicating the work which is
> just done.  I was never a friend of the argument: I'm just doing it
> because somebody else is doing it as well.

So am I to understand that you object to Debian source packages being
distributed other than as part of a Debian mirror?  This still doesn't make
any sense to me whatsoever.

 - mdz

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