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Re: Frank Carmickle and Marco Paganini must die



On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 01:48:19AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> 	I guess this is the level of drivel I should expect of
>  you. No, the reason people should listen to me is not the  MTA my
>  mail originates at, but the contents of my emails.  If people do not
>  like the content, they can chose to filter it out.
> 
> 	If they are moronic enough to filter out perfectly fine
>  content they actually wanted to read, it is their problem.  You may
>  find it acceptable to axe perfectly innocent email because "ooh! ooh!
>  mommy look! they have a dial up account!!!", but then if you have
>  false positives, all you have to blame is your idiotic filtering
>  policy.
> 
> 	Filter on whether the mail is spam, or not.  I see a couple
>  of spams a week, and it has been a month or so since my filter had a
>  false positive. Filtering on nationality, or whether the originating
>  MTA is on a dialup or not, has no relation to the value of the
>  content of the message.  Stop trying to impose corrections for this
>  idiotic policy on the rest of the internet -- _that_ is what is both
>  arrogant and impractical.

I think you're missing my point, so I'll restate it, again.  I am not arguing
for or against any particular filtering scheme.  What I am saying, basically,
is:

GIVEN the fact that many ISP's block messages from dynamic IP's, and
GIVEN the fact that so much spam comes from dynamic IP's,
(making said blocking a reasonable thing to do in many people's eyes, whether
you agree with it or not)
It is a bad idea to operate under the assumption that mail sent from such an
address will always reach its recipient reliably.

You appear to be saying "I don't care about the people who block my mail".
If you are talking about your own personal e-mail account, that's fine, but 
when you are in charge of a role account, there is a greater responsibility 
to communicate with people (in general, role accounts are created for the 
purpose of official communication) and IMO the "I don't care" argument 
doesn't hold up anymore.

If you want to change the way the Internet operates, go for it, and good 
luck.  Until it changes, don't operate under false assumptions.  Or, do
whatever you want, but don't complain about it on the Debian lists when 
things go awry.

--Adam
-- 
Adam McKenna  <adam@debian.org>  <adam@flounder.net>



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