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Re: non-free and users?



Sven Luther wrote:

I hope I answered this question in other thread, just to make it as clear as possible. I agree with the fact that stopping to distribute non-free will decrease the amount of good, which Debian can do. It was wrong and stupid to claim opposite from my side. This fact doesn't change the fact that by distributing non-free Debian act in the way which lead to unethical situations. Dropping non-free itself will decrease the amount of good, but it will decrease also the amount of actions which lead to unethical situations.

The only solution I see, to get from the situation where the Debian is, will be that Debian not just drops non-free, but will redirect efforts and resources from distributing non-free to free packages support and distribution.


Well, the problem with that premise, is that it will redirect the effort
from working on free _and_ non-free software, to the work needed to
maintain the non-free.org architecture and/or maintaining the non-free
packages outside of debian.

I said that by redirecting efforts and resources from non-free to free
we will reduce amount of unethical situations. You say that redirecting efforts and resources from non-free to free (that is what I propose) will redirect them on something else.

I do not understand you here. You probably mean that you will do something else because distributing non-free is very important for
you. But I was talking about you. I mean you will redirect your
efforts as well as other Debian developers.

And notice that altough many non-free packages are quite ok (imagine a
licence of the kind "GPL but additional limitation that it can't be used
for mass murders or such"), there are others, and in particular the
binary-only ones, which are not only non-ethical, but also plain _evil_.

I do not talk for a moment about the whole non-free. Currently I am talking about 2 clear cases: (1) packages with sources without permition to distribute modified versions and (2)packages without sources.

I think that software or any other thing can not be evil without associated human action.

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Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov




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