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Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]



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On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500
>>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen.
>>>>
>>>> If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time,
>>>> keep your data and your apps on your local machine.
>>> So what would you recommend for a free, ISP-independent email
>>> service with IMAP and a sensible amount of storage space?
>>>
>>> The reason I use Gmail is because there is no way I can set up
>>> everything for email on a local server
>> Why not?  Unless I am misunderstanding you, it's perfectly possible.
>>  Here's a link to an emal from just last week about someone doing
>> that:
>> http://lists-archives.org/debian-user/3509138-imap-is-teh-r0x0rz.html
> 
> Maybe I am just misunderstanding you or the ramifications, but I only
> have a residential ISP package with a dynamic IP and the only domain
> pointing towards it is free from DynDNS. I don't find myself in the
> situation to run a complete mail package like what Gmail and others
> provide.

I'm certain that you *are* running a "complete mail package" and
don't even know it!  :O

Just about all Unix systems use the same MTA[0] to transfer intra-
system mail as they do to transfer mail across the world.  Exim is
the Debian default, but many replace it with Postfix.

Most people must configure their MUA to send email to
smtp.bigisp.net, and receive mail from pop.bigisp.net.  But with
Unix (and Debian makes this very easy) you can configure your MTA to
be a relayhost[1].

The way I've configured my system.  Thus, in Icedove, I don't set
the smtp server to be smtp.east.cox.net but "haggis", which is my
machine's name.  The MTA (Postfix, in my case) then routes the email
to smtp.east.cox.net which then takes it and sends it on to it's
final destination.

Conversely, fetchmail retrieves my mail from pop.east.cox.net then
passes it to Postfix (which feeds it thru Spam Assassin) and then to
an IMAP server running on my desktop.  That's where I (and my wife
and children) read our email from, anywhere on our LAN.

[0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_transfer_agent
[1]http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#relayhost
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

"Kittens give Morbo gas.  In lighter news, the city of New New
York is doomed."
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