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Re: REALLY OT: News Flash



On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:01:30PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > Why does it matter?  If it was important, God would have put it in the
> > Bible.  Since it is not there, we can rest assured that it is not
> > important.
> 
>     It's not important.  That's convenient.  No wonder you see no
> contradiction in the Bible.  Why is it important?  If the first humans were
> Adam and Eve and they had 2 sons, Cain and Abel who or what did Cain take as a
> wife in Genesis 4:17, "And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare
> Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name
> of his son, Enoch."
> 
>     Let's list the entire human population according to the Bible at that
> point.  Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel (deceased).  1 woman, 3 men.  There are all of 3
> possibilities here.
> 
> 1: Cain's wife is Eve.
> 
> 2: Cain's wife is his unnamed and unmentioned sister.
> 
> 3: There were more humans around than just Adam and Eve.
> 
>     You ask how it is important?  I ask how it is *not* important given the
> later prohibition against laying with one's mother or sister or the fact that
> if Adam and Eve weren't the only humans they certainly weren't the *first*
> humans.  So either the Bible is contradicting itself or lying.
> 
Ever read a book?  Does the description of the opening pages describe
the universe in which that book takes place, to exclusion?  So, if the
opening scenes in a book describe two people talking, are they to be
assumed the only two inhabitants of the universe?  No.

Perhaps Adam and Eve's other children were the biblical equivalent of
"bit players."

I mean come one.  There was never an episode or movie of Star Trek where
anyone used a restroom.  That doesn't mean that nobody in the Star Trek
univers had normal bodily functions (with the possible exception of
Commander Data).

>     But your question proves my point about the facts being there and you
> dismissing them.  Here's a crucial problem within the first pages of the book
> and instead of looking at it, questioning it, acknowledging it what was your
> response?
> 
>     "Since it is not there, we can rest assured it is not important."  You
> dismissed it.
> 
If a news report shows a family with a child and you later learn that
the family had three children, who is wrong?

> > I have.  You clearly have not.
> 
>     Really?  Who's Cain's wife?  How many sabbath breakers have you killed
> today?  Idle curiosity, do you have a daughter?  If so have you offered her up
> for gang rape like Job did?  Do you hate your mother and father and, indeed,
> your own life?
> 
I think you mean Lot, not Job.  But you are obviously taking scripture
out of context.

> > I know I don't know all the answers.
> 
>     Really, then why don't you ask questions?
> 
I do ask questions.  But not to you, since you are no more likely to
have the answers.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sanchez
http://people.connexer.com/~roberto
http://www.connexer.com

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