on Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:03:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb (grey@dmiyu.org) wrote:
> Adam Aube wrote:
> > Unfortunately, blacklisting is a much more realistic solution than
> > wholesale user education, so yes, blacklisting such providers is
> > probably the only workable solution.
>
> Unfortunately the reality is unless the blacklisted each other it
> wouldn't work. If we blacklist them and mail fails to get through what's
> the reaction of their users? "Fix your problem, our ISP is fine because
> it's bigger."
Take a look at RIMA-TDE. That's the Spanish telecom, a grossly
mismanaged national ISP.
As with Wanadoo (another massive and massivly mismanaged major EU ISP),
RIMA-TDE has developed a reputation for doing nothing (other than
bouncing) abuse requests.
It's now got the choice to make between cleaning up its own act or
having a large number of peering nets clean up its act for it. By
dropping all traffic.
IDP has worked in the past. It still works.
Peace.
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