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Re: The certificate of 'ftp-master.debian.org' is not trusted.

On 09/07/15 at 16:27 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 04:11:01PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > 
> > DSA is well aware of the problem. The root issue seems to be that they
> > are lacking hardware to host UDD on its own storage (which was the
> > agreement when Zack authorized the funding for the current UDD hardware
> > in 2011-ish), so the storage is shared with munin.d.o, which has a
> > write-heavy/sync-heavy workload.
> > 
> > At this point, I would no longer find it fair to put pressure on DSA, as
> > I'm no longer sure that I'll find the motivation to work again on UDD
> > even if that is fixed.
> Are you currently the only person who feels responsible for basic UDD
> maintenance.  For sure you are way more involved in all this hardware
> issues due to you DPL job.  But I can not imagine that we simply let UDD
> bitrot since more and more services are based upon it (for me UDD is one
> of the best invention since sliced bread).
> > > PS: I'll checkout the blends-all importer immediately.  Please in future
> > >     let me know right in time if you notice that something fails.  I'm
> > >     observing the results of the UDD imports on Blends sentinel quite
> > >     frequently but may be I'm missing something.  The UDD cron mails
> > >     are not that helpful if I feel flooded by lots of things I can not
> > >     help about.  So I might have missed things, sorry.
> > 
> > You are flooded because things are failing. If you ignore those mails,
> > you don't know it's failing, and it doesn't get fixed. It's a vicious
> > circle.
> Not really.  I just checked the last 42 mails I received after my last
> cleanup.  Non of them are concerning any code I have written and from
> what I would draw a task for myself to fix something.  I admit I do not
> remember any blends related mail and I keep on investigating what on
> blends-all is not working.  Could you give a hint what makes you
> suspicious about this?

Look for the daily "check_timestamps" cron email, that lists tasks
that haven't run successfully for a while. That should give a good hint
of what's not working. The other mails are generally only useful for
debugging further, not for getting information about stuff that isn't


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