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let's finally solve this whole mess which has lasted for over a year now ...

On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 03:28:09PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:13:02PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> > >    But you are not asking for justice, you are asking for revenge and
> > > retalation. And as long as I am the project leader there shall be no
> > > revenge or retalation, and you had better accept it. You do not undo
> > > harm by harming even more.
> > 
> > You are spreading FUD, this is the second time in this thread, whic
> > saddens me strongly.
>    If one looks at the subject of the thread, it appears that you are
> asking the DPL to "take action at whoever removed you from the kernel
> team at alioth". This is asking for retaliation.

Ok, so you are playing with words, are you satisfied now with this new
title ?
>    I will look at your other concerns and decide what I can do. But as I
> said, as long as I am the project leader there will be no retaliation,
> so try again in May 2008.

i am not asking for retaliation. I am asking that a fair and honest
resolution to this mess be found, one which is acceptable to each party,
and which will allow us all to put this mess behind us and go back to
happily coding ever after.

For this, there are a few point. That all parties involved recognize
their fair part of fault, and no more (altough i will be happy if the
d-i folk don't recognize their part of fault, like said, i lost all hope
with them, but then it should be noted so), that all sanctions against
me, which where unfair and resulted of a partial and one-sided handling
of the problem, where lifted (except the d-i team membership, as side,
if the d-i folk cannot be reasoned, too bad for them, but their refusal
to work on a compromise should be noted), and we can all go back to
happily coding ever after.

So easy a resolution to this mess, don't you think ? Or if there is a
problem with this, then i am seriously curious as to what this problem
is ? And the "but you have offended so many folk" line i have been given
sounds suspiciously like accepting the behaviour in others which i am
condemned for, don't you think ? 

A last note, notice how, despite me repeating myself so many time, you
still don't manage to actually grasp what i am asking for. It is
probably a severe lack in my communication skills, but repetition, with
little variants, is the only cure to that.


Sven Luther

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