Re: [debian-knoppix] Why so much swap with knx-install?
On Sunday 26 January 2003 00:55, Gilles Pelletier wrote:
> I succeeded in installing Debian but, whereas configuring ppp is a cinch
> with any other distro, Kppp was nowhere to be found. The was an option for
> ADSL configuration instead. I tried using wvdial, but wasn't sure the
> permissions I had so set to get it working as a user wouldn't get me into
> trouble.
>
> So I got back to Slackware because I had some experience with it. Debian
> developpers efforts were lost for me because some weirdo expert decided it
> wasn't necessary to provide kppp.
>
> I'm sure you couldn't care less and that Debian would do great even if no
> newbie ever came to use it.
Well, the woody that I got from CheapByte was 8 CDs (the complete Debian
Wood), and it had Kppp (although I didn't use it much, because I upgraded KDE
to 3.1). If you didn't install kppp with tasksel, or dselect, or if you
didn't get the complete CDs, then it's not Debian's problem is it?
> > With RedHat dropping support for the SPARC architecture, Debian
> > seems to be about the only choice left for Linux in heterogenous
> > networks. (Even Windows NT started out with supporting several
> > architectures. For MS, dropping support was the right thing to do,
> > revenue-wise. Does it mean the user was better off? No.)
>
> If I ever got into the pains of buying SPARC based computer, I do believe I
> would use Sun software. Most probably Debian developpers will keep
> developping SPARC when even Sun will have stopped doing so. Meanwhile, it's
> just another excuse for the eternal "it's ready when it's ready".
>
> My opinion is the same as Ben Collins' : there is way too much entropy in
> the community. Remember how hard he tried to get Woody out less than a year
> after all other distros had their release of the 2.4 kernel out? To him
> "when it's ready" was clearly way too late. He never succeeded. The way
> Debian sees democracy might end up being costly.
These flame wars. that debian is too late, has always been around, and perhaps
will always continue. But, debian has got something that no other distro has
and that's called apt (sorry, I don't call apt-rpm as something functional).
I am also using i386 software, and I was perhaps very disappointed when woody
came with XFree 4.1, but did I upgrade Xfree, with no problem, in no time at
all. I remember once, trying to install KDE 3.0 on RedHat 7.1, and it became
such a mess that was unuseable anymore. Debian is slow, but with such a good
comunity, providing all latest packages, I don't see why every bleeding edge
package should be in Debian stable.
Cheers
--
"Dismiss the weak and inferior, embrace the
Evil and Possess your Box before the beast
that has been unleashed upon"
-UNDEAD EvilEntity Linux
Aryan
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