Re: ssh, /dev/urandom

To: tb@becket.net
Cc: neal@cs.uml.edu, kilobug@freesurf.fr, jbailey@nisa.net, sergipop@mx3.redestb.es, debian-hurd@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:51:45 +0100
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In-reply-to: <[🔎] 878yylwxe3.fsf@becket.becket.net> (tb@becket.net)
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   If our only alternatives are

   1) no ssh
   2) ssh with no security

   you have advocated (2), right?  It is that statement which I am
   arguing against.

No, I have advocated against including a unsecure random translator.
You are forgetting the third alternative, making ssh use its own
random pool.  Assuming that it is possible, if it is possible then
this is the best solution.

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- Re: K1 images - final report?
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  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
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- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom (was: Re: K1 images - final report?)
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
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