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Re: systemd, again (Re: Cinnamon environment now available in testing)



On 2014-09-05 23:50 +0200, Russ Allbery wrote:

> Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> writes:
>
>> systemd also pulls in a large amount of bloat (IIRC someone mentioned
>> 100ish packages in wheezy vs 146 in current jessie).  Purging those is
>> nontrivial, as some had their priority bumped up.
>
> That seems much higher than I believe is the case.  Wasn't there a
> detailed analysis of this posted a while back?  My vague recollection was
> a number more on the order of a quarter of that, and with most of those
> being quite small (such as libsystemd-daemon0, which counts as a package
> but which has an installed size of 72KB).

Here's what I get when replacing sysvinit-core with systemd-sysv in my
pbuilder chroot:

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| The following NEW packages will be installed:
|   acl{a} (D: systemd)  adduser{a} (D: systemd)  dmsetup{a} (D: libdevmapper1.02.1)  
|   libcap2-bin{a} (D: systemd)  libcryptsetup4{a} (D: systemd)  
|   libdbus-1-3{a} (P: systemd, D: systemd)  
|   libdevmapper1.02.1{a} (D: dmsetup, D: libcryptsetup4)  
|   libgcrypt11{a} (P: systemd, D: libsystemd-journal0)  
|   libgcrypt20{a} (D: libcryptsetup4)  
|   libgpg-error0{a} (D: libcryptsetup4, D: libgcrypt11, D: libgcrypt20)  
|   libkmod2{a} (D: systemd, D: udev)  libprocps3{a} (D: procps)  
|   libsystemd-daemon0{a} (P: systemd)  libsystemd-journal0{a} (D: systemd)  
|   libsystemd-login0{a} (D: systemd)  
|   libudev1{a} (D: libdevmapper1.02.1, D: systemd, D: udev)  
|   libwrap0{a} (D: systemd)  procps{a} (D: udev)  
|   systemd{a} (P: systemd-sysv, D: systemd-sysv)  systemd-sysv  
|   udev{a} (D: systemd)  
| The following packages will be REMOVED:
|   sysvinit-core  
| The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
|   dbus (R: libdbus-1-3)  libpam-cap (R: libcap2-bin)  libpam-systemd (R: systemd)  
|   psmisc (R: initscripts, R: procps)  tcpd (R: libwrap0)  
| 0 packages upgraded, 21 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
| Need to get 0 B/4436 kB of archives. After unpacking 18.1 MB will be used.
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Cheers,
       Sven


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