On Friday, 5 de September de 2014 09:57:34 Josselin Mouette escribió: > Noel Torres wrote: > > So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the user) > > path. > > > > Should not logind depend on systemd-shim | systemd-sysv instead? > > No. Systemd is the default init system. The default dependencies should > reflect that. > > And from a purely functional point of view, it makes more sense to bring > by default the standard, upstream-supported, well-tested solution, than > the Debuntu-specific hack to use it with an inferior init system. > > Cheers, "Inferior" is your personal (and others) opinion. I do not think systemd being clearly superior. It has better points that sysvinit but also worse points (already extensively discussed). So that is not a reason to force users install systemd when they are just upgrading their currently working systems. So: * standard: we chose so (against the opinion of a lot of people), nothing more to discuss about that * upstream-supported: not exclusive to systemd * well-tested: not true. sysvinit is the well tested, and well known one (including its quircks and lacks) * superior: plain no Regards
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