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Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Le jeudi 23 février 2012 à 17:54 +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : 
> I've no problem with Debian supporting multiple init systems. But if
> someone claims maintaince costs are too high for that, that is in my
> eyes a reason against supporting systemd, not for only having it.

Seriously, this constant obstruction to improving the Debian system by a
minority of whiners who don’t contribute much to relevant parts of the
system but have an opinion on everything is getting intolerable.

System V init is dying. It might be the most awesome init system for
you, and actually it has been for a some time, but that doesn’t change
that fact. Developers are not going to tolerate its limitations anymore
now there are better alternatives.

Want one example? Unless someone writes missing pieces of code, and I
fail to see why they would, some GNOME 3.4 packages (yes this is for
wheezy) might have a Recommends: systemd. It’s not that I love it (I
still don’t even use it myself) but despite all the flames around it and
the destructive personality of the main developer, I can’t find any good
reason not to do that. Does it break anything? No. Does it make it
impossible for you to use this or that other package? No. It only
prevents you from hacking some shell scripts which, anyway, shouldn’t
exist to begin with. 

I’m afraid I don’t find your use case very compelling.

 .''`.      Josselin Mouette
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