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Re: Frank Carmickle and Marco Paganini must die

This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said:
> Le mardi 21 septembre 2004 à 08:41 -0700, Adam McKenna a écrit :
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2004 at 10:45:31AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > If typing 'free pop3 account' into google is too much for you, then I guess 
> > you win.  I only get 456,000 hits, so I can see why that wouldn't be an 
> > option for you.
> You don't seem to have read what I wrote here. I'm talking about
> *SENDING* mail, not receiving it.
> > I still have that gmail invite.
> No, thanks, I have my own IMAP server.

Use port 587 to send your mail through a working system somewhere else,
then.  Almost no one is blocking 587 yet, and it is the standard.

Look, if people really are having problems getting their mail moved
around, we are a bunch of geeks with access to bandwidth, right?  I'm
sure that asking around will get people with problems access to
'legitmate' (for someone's definition of legitimate) mail server
somewhere in the world.  

I don't want to start using RBL's on my debian account, precisely 
because it's their for people trying to fix broken setups, but I can see
the arguments for it.  If this can be implemented as an opt in kind of
thing, then I am all for it.  I believe the main MTA's are running exim4
now, so if someone wants help setting up an opt-in RBL, let me know - it
should be trivially easy with LDAP & exim4, as would asmtp over ssl.
Actually, now that I think about it, why don't we set up asmtp over ssl
on port 587?  That way any DD has access to a 'legitmate' mail server,
and this can hopefully go away.  Granted, this should only be used for
Debian related email, so personal email would have to still be asked
around for, but that can still be done.

If we can do asmtp over ssl (I don't actually care about email being
moved over ssl - it's generally useless since most hops will be in the
clear, but sedning passwords is another matter) and have an opt-in RBL
field in LDAP, can this thread finally die?  I'm volunteering to write
the exim ACL's if someone tells me what LDAP fields they want to use for
the opt-in.
|   ,''`.					     Stephen Gran |
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