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Re: Bug#167297: ITP: gnome1 -- The GNU Network Object Model Environment (version 1)

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:54:22 -0200
Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.org> wrote:

>  What do you mean by virtual workspaces? Are they any different from
>  the 4 workspaces I use on my GNOME2?

I am sorry, terminology is important, and I've used the wrong term by
chance. I meant "virtual viewports". They do these things (sorry for
poor english)

- are organized in rows and columns (now they are also in gnome2)

- you can switch between them by putting the mouse pointer near the edge
of the desktop: if you put your pointer on the lower edge, you go one
viewport lower. In gnome2 workspace are really linear: if you hit the
lower edge, or the right edge, this makes no difference, and you go to
the *next* workspace

- the same considerations hold when moving a window

- you can put a window half on a viewport and half on another viewport

- you can get a viewport "in the middle" between others. I personally
don't use this feature, but might be useful with small monitors, dunno.

Now, with sawfish 0.something (woody), I use a 3x3 grid of viewports and
when I want, I create a new *desktop* with another 3x3 grid. The two
concepts are different, and I happily use both. But for me (and many
other people I know) viewports are the most important of the two.

The matter is that when somebody studies usability of a software, he
always do this looking at the beginner user. The experienced user is
always forgotten.

I am frustrated when I have to work in windows, even if I use some
"powertoy" or something (not installed by me so don't know what) which
implements virtual desktops, since what I want are virtual viewports.

fvwm and afterstep provided viewports, and I convinced a few people to
switch to linux just letting them use this feature, I am not joking. Of
course they were not compter-newbies.

I repeat, and some day I want to discuss this in [desktop]: there must
be attention for experienced users usability, not only to newbies. Just
let me the choice, because choice is the reason that made me switch to


First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
then they fight you, then you win.

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