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Re: woody is getting worse...



On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:31:47AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:00:10PM -0400, David A. Greene wrote:
> > I recall several past incidents during which a maintainer was flamed
> > for not testing his packages before uploading them.  There seems to
> > be somewhat of a double-standard here.
> Ah, so now I didn't even test my package before uploading it.
> And, how, pray tell, do you know that?  Please show me the video footage
> of my workstation at home that reveals me rolling the package and
> uploading it without running it first.

Well, the alternative is of course that you knew about the bug, and knew
that it'd break for everyone as soon as they installed your package,
and just couldn't be bothered fixing it.

But not testing a package that you upload to unstable isn't that big
a concern.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 02:00:20AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> I didn't see anyone -- not the release manager, not anyone -- taking the
> initiative to upgrade the severity of this bug.  

Funnily enough, I don't actually read and analyse every bug report that
gets filed to ensure that it's the appropriate severity. Normally this
works pretty well (especially, IMO, since "important" got forked into
"serious"), as evidenced by the rarity of flamewars like this.

> Given that, I conclude
> that the matter was left to my discretion. 

Which, indeed it was. The problem is, you got it wrong.

> Second-guessing the decision now doesn't do anyone any good.

And that's wrong too: talking about the decision now, saying that it
was wrong, and saying why it's wrong, helps us work out what we should
do in future. Or at least, it does for other people who aren't too busy
trying to blame everyone else.

> Alternatively, I could never downgrade any bugs that are filed against
> X, and it would be promptly removed from the distribution due to bugs I
> can't fix.  (See most of the "important" bugs against xserver-xfree86.)

And that would be "false dichotomy".

Cheers,
aj

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