Re: Aranym installation, was Re: Centris 650 Debian 10 SID Installation
On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 6/21/19 3:36 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > Forking hundreds of shell instances for doing simple things like
> > string substitution isn't efficient. It's a brain-dead design. Anyone
> > who thinks that sysvinit is the original Unix design has never used an
> > original Unix. sysvinit has always been a hack.
>
> And, FWIW, I recommend reading the "Unix Hater's Handbook" [1] for
> anyone who is still convinced the "old traditional Unix way" (TM) is the
> way to go. It isn't. Original Unix sucks. I have used HP-UX, OSF/1 and
> old versions of Solaris and they are all horrible to use.
>
I agree -- UNIX is to blame here. To be specific, the PID 1 heirarchy of
processes and its implications for the user/kernel boundary is broken.
Therefore, the main problem with sysvinit is also the main problem with
systemd.
--
> Adrian
>
> > [1] https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf
>
>
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