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Re: Aranym installation, was Re: Centris 650 Debian 10 SID Installation



On 6/21/19 1:55 AM, userm57@yahoo.com wrote:
> It's neither right nor wrong for people to make assumptions based on
> their prior experience.  The link that Adrian sent on a different thread
> regarding a separate /usr was instructive:
> 
> https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken/

It's surely not wrong to make your own assumptions. But at least you should
give me a chance to explain the situation a bit. There are certain design
decisions that we cannot influence and there are certain issues that are
bugs that can be bugs.

If you give me some time to look at the issue you are experiencing, I can
tell you whether this is "as expected" or you actually stumbled into a bug.

> I now understand that the latest trend is that a separate /usr is not
> recommended.  And it's clear that most major Linux distributions have
> become dependent on systemd.  That's neither good nor bad; the GPL will
> allow people to do whatever they want.  I have to say that I was a
> little troubled by the supremely smug attitude in the above link.

Well, is there actually a valid reason to have a separate /usr? I don't
see any.

> But it's all good.  There's an active community (and Linux
> distributions) that are still working to maintain sysvinit.

This is not related to systemd vs. sysvinit.

> I won't rehash the systemd / sysvinit arguments here; it's clear the
> direction that most distributions are taking.  People who want the
> older, simpler way, especially for older systems, or who like to
> maintain some compatibility with the BSD universe, will be able to find
> a way.
Forking hundreds of shell instances for doing simple things like string
substitution isn't efficient. It's a brain-dead design. Anyone who thinks
that sysvinit is the original Unix design has never used an original
Unix. sysvinit has always been a hack.

Adrian

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