Michael Banck wrote:
On Thu, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:19:55AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:Well, no, but i believe that new kernel release handling deserve it too, and not this almost a month if not more wait from upload to NEW queue handling we are currently seing. And i have sent a non-flame mail to ftp-masters, proposing help on handling of this, like overviewing the changes between versions and proposing a resume of it, to help theftp-masters job, but to this date, i hardly have seen a reply.Sven, I guess everybody would be much more sympathetic to your cause if you would not use every remotely connected opportunity to argue about it. ("Oh! Somebody said ftp-master! Better jump in there!") Michael
A lot of the suggestions by people defending the status quo seem quite contradictory. On the one hand, it seems perfectly acceptable that communications toward the people with the power go unanswered (because these are busy people, they're volunteers, etc...). On the other hand, the people who continue to seek a dialog on specific issues are told that by repeatedly "bothering" the people with the power, they're actually hurting their cause (because annoying them in this way is such a burden that it probably means that the specific issue will get "less" attention than it would have otherwise). The logical conclusion is that with the exception of the (relatively few) folks with some sort of personal relationship with those who hold the power, everyone else should be content to simply state their case(s) once. My view is that the people who make more noise about things that they perceive as needing improvement should be rewarded for their perseverance. just my (non-DD) .0199999... cents, ~c p.s. While it can be somewhat entertaining (in a "watching a car wreck" kind of way), the level of hostility in these ongoing discussions is really quite amazing. I suppose it's a tribute to the underlying beliefs that tie us all together (free software) that the project doesn't (hasn't yet?) implode(d). Nevertheless, it seems that perhaps taking a few deep breaths (or even waiting a few hours/days) before replying to someone on the opposite side of the issue might be good advice for all of us.