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Re: Ready to vote on 2004-003?

On Wed, 19 May 2004 23:07:27 -0400, Raul Miller <moth@debian.org> said: 

>> > In other words, with the new social contract, there should be no
>> > problem releasing Sarge with GFDL and other such stuff in main?

> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:01:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Sure, since we were practically at the brink of releasing Sarge,
>> anyway, and, as I said in the proposal life does not stop just
>> because we changed a foundation document.
> ...
>> I think that this is not something the tech ctte needs to hand to
>> the project from up on high. I believe that we ought to continue to
>> support users, bug fixes, overdue releases, etc. while we work
>> towards changing stuff to meet the new SC --- however, this is
>> something we need to get a buy in from the majority of the
>> developers.
>> There is a time and a place for tech ctte to take things into its
>> own hands, but, this, I think, is not such a time.

> I guess what you're saying is that you think "releasing Sarge" is a
> good idea, but not such an obviously valid idea that we should
> proceed with that idea without a GR that explicitly states that
> that's what we should do?

	Don't guess. Don't project. Do not put words in my mouth. Do
 not attack paper tigers.

	I am saying that even though I believe it is a great idea, it
 is something we all must believe in, not be told to do so by a bunch
 of people who occasionaly pontificate from their tech ctte char.

	I believe it is a great idea. I have thought it thorouh, and
 convinced myself. As AJ said, people must think so for themselves,
 not told it by authority figures.

	The important part is not the GR. The important part is
 whether people so affirm their support for the idea of releasing
 sarge and transition periods.

> If that's the case, I don't see why Anthony should treat it as such
> an obviously valid idea that he should proceed with that idea
> without a GR that explicitly states that that's what he should do.

	See what happens when you create paper tigers? You get
 paradoxes. Stop trying to put yourself in my shoes, you are not
 having a great day.

	Now stop imagining what I probably meant to say and listen to
 what I _am_ saying.


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