Joe wrote: > It's a dim memory now, but I've certainly been there and done that. > > There's an indirection somewhere else that wasn't stable. It's probably > ancient history now. no it is not ancient history but it improved and still in some cases you need to put index value. I guess you did not do the right thing, because the right thing is to tell the driver index=0 or index=1 Anyway - frustration is what you are looking for and frustration is what you get. regards