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Re: Using Sid (was: New `no sound' problems)

On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 13:13:32 +0200
Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> wrote:

> Curt <curty@free.fr> writes:
> > On 2018-08-07, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> Curt wrote:
> >>  
> >>> He means it's self-explanatory given you're using testing and
> >>> when using testing shit happens (things break)  
> >>
> >> its not even testing it is sid - as far as I know it is after
> >> testing and there even more shit happens, so I don't understand
> >> why he/she should bother us or we should bother answering.
> >> This definitely is not a user query but rather something that goes
> >> to package/support etc.  
> >
> > Right, sorry, Sid is unstable not testing, which is even more
> > "self-explanatory."  
> deloptes, Curt, I understand what you say so that I'm considering
> downgrading to Stable.  Nevertheless, I'm not sure that the
> debian-user list should not discuss problems arising from the use of
> Sid.  After all, my recent experience with Sid and two problems
> coming up: `no sound' and `su/sudo', gave birth and occasion for an
> interesting discussion with a lot of passionate users taking part to
> it (the `su/sudo' one).  Discussions that turn to be useful and
> clarifying also for Stable of course.  Secondarily, what is important
> I think to point out is the fact that I've been using Sid for may
> years now - I that am not expert at all - and, after all, the
> problems that I've had using Sid were of minor issue.  Consider for
> example these two latest: the `no sound' problem were easily solved
> simply removing pulseaudio, and the `su/sudo' one was just a matter
> of doing, since now on, `su -' in place of `su': not a big one.
Yes, there's no suggestion that this list is 'stable-only', just that
sid users should expect a certain amount of trouble. 

Having said that, I don't think I've had more sound problems with my
sid workstations than with my stable server. Sound is generally a pig
on Linux, as the software base seems to change every few years, and
until recently, multiple sound cards had the same problem as multiple
NICs in that the OS couldn't seem to identify them reliably. I've
solved most of my sound problems by getting brutal and actually ripping
out and blacklisting drivers for the sound devices I'm not using.
Nothing less seemed to permanently solve the identity crisis.


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