Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?
What was I thinking? (I have some distractions going on right now).
dist-upgrades?
Of course. Earlier in this sequence I did ask, to track testing
permanently, should I do:
sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
I presume that's what you meant. Is the answer yes, then? But if so,
wouldn't that only have to be done once, followed by periodically
doing:
sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
???
On 1/25/16, Francis Gerund <ranrund@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, Jochen.
>
> 1) You are correct. It should have been:
>
>>Then, I did:
>
>>sudo apt-get check
>>sudo apt-get update
>>sudo apt-get upgrade
>>sudo clean
>>sudo autoclean
>>sudo autoremove
>
> My mistake. Sorry.
>
>
> 2) Run dist-upgrades? No one mentioned that (to me), and I did not
> know anything about that.
>
> Hopefully I can find some information on that.
>
> I thought that once I upgraded to testing, I would be much like stable
> - just generally sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and check,
> clean, autoclean, and autoremove from time to time.
>
>
> 3) No, I don't want to make it easy to break my system, but I do
> want/need to track testing. Stable is just too stale.
>
> I don't feel like testing, unstable, etc. should be only for the
> nobles, and denied to the mere peasants (like me).
>
> I have read/heard all the warnings about system breakage. I do back
> up my data. And I can reinstall if necessary.
>
> I have begun to suspect that the Debian "powers that be" deliberately
> don't make upgrading to testing/unstable/experimental clear and easy,
> in order to discourage people from doing it. Speculating upon the
> reasons that might be is left as an exercise for the reader . . .
>
> ;-)
>
>
> On 1/25/16, Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:
>> Francis Gerund:
>>>
>>> Then, I did:
>>>
>>> sudo check
>>> sudo update
>>> sudo upgrade
>>> clean
>>> autoclean
>>> autoremove
>>
>> What are these supposed to do? I suppose they are apt operations, but
>> don't make us guess. Always quote the exact commands you are using.
>>
>>> But, should I now do:
>>>
>>> sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade
>>> sudo dist-upgrade
>>
>> If you want to track testing, you will need to run dist-upgrades from
>> time to time. If you upgrade from stable without doing that, your
>> upgrade is incomplete. You should know that if you want to run testing.
>>
>>> Which brings me to my final point. I honestly thought it was a
>>> simple,easy question, that would relatively quickly receive a simple,
>>> easy response. I was surprised that upgrading from stable to testing
>>> is still not a simple, clear, idiot-proof operation. After all, this
>>> is 2016 . . . right?
>>
>> Do you want to make it easy to break your system? Because that's what
>> tracking testing or unstable can do. If you run anything but stable, you
>> need a certain set of skills so that you are able to fix many problems
>> yourself and report issues that are not only temporary and might affect
>> other users.
>>
>> J.
>> --
>> I am getting worse rather than better.
>> [Agree] [Disagree]
>>
>> <http://archive.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html>
>>
>
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