Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?
Hi, Jochen.
1) You are correct. It should have been:
>Then, I did:
>sudo apt-get check
>sudo apt-get update
>sudo apt-get upgrade
>sudo clean
>sudo autoclean
>sudo autoremove
My mistake. Sorry.
2) Run dist-upgrades? No one mentioned that (to me), and I did not
know anything about that.
Hopefully I can find some information on that.
I thought that once I upgraded to testing, I would be much like stable
- just generally sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and check,
clean, autoclean, and autoremove from time to time.
3) No, I don't want to make it easy to break my system, but I do
want/need to track testing. Stable is just too stale.
I don't feel like testing, unstable, etc. should be only for the
nobles, and denied to the mere peasants (like me).
I have read/heard all the warnings about system breakage. I do back
up my data. And I can reinstall if necessary.
I have begun to suspect that the Debian "powers that be" deliberately
don't make upgrading to testing/unstable/experimental clear and easy,
in order to discourage people from doing it. Speculating upon the
reasons that might be is left as an exercise for the reader . . .
;-)
On 1/25/16, Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> wrote:
> Francis Gerund:
>>
>> Then, I did:
>>
>> sudo check
>> sudo update
>> sudo upgrade
>> clean
>> autoclean
>> autoremove
>
> What are these supposed to do? I suppose they are apt operations, but
> don't make us guess. Always quote the exact commands you are using.
>
>> But, should I now do:
>>
>> sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade
>> sudo dist-upgrade
>
> If you want to track testing, you will need to run dist-upgrades from
> time to time. If you upgrade from stable without doing that, your
> upgrade is incomplete. You should know that if you want to run testing.
>
>> Which brings me to my final point. I honestly thought it was a
>> simple,easy question, that would relatively quickly receive a simple,
>> easy response. I was surprised that upgrading from stable to testing
>> is still not a simple, clear, idiot-proof operation. After all, this
>> is 2016 . . . right?
>
> Do you want to make it easy to break your system? Because that's what
> tracking testing or unstable can do. If you run anything but stable, you
> need a certain set of skills so that you are able to fix many problems
> yourself and report issues that are not only temporary and might affect
> other users.
>
> J.
> --
> I am getting worse rather than better.
> [Agree] [Disagree]
>
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