Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors
On 17/04/2015, Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:16:41 +0800
> Bret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17/04/2015, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.busby@gmail.com):
>> >> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are
>> >> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to work on Debian (which is
>> >> how I got Seamonkey installed and working on this system, from an
>> >> old version of Seamonkey.deb, that I had obtained), I downloaded
>> >> and tried to install the package.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure I can tell what package you mean here.
>> >
>>
>> fglrx_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb
>
> On
> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064
>
> you will find several packages. Among these are
> fglrx-core_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb
>
> that you mentioned you lacked earlier. It is a driver without X
> support, but it seems the X driver depends on it. You probably also
> want fglrx-amdcccle_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb, which is the
> graphical setup utility. There is also a development package for
> OpenGL, which you may or may not want.
>
Thank you for that.
It is unfortunate that the AMD web page that linked to the download
for the package that depended on that package, di not include a link
to the package, with some information like "the package needs this
package to be installed, which can be downloaded form..."
I=-
> But. These packages are for *Ubuntu*. Ubuntu is not Debian. Yes, they
> both use .deb packages, but that does not mean that the Ubuntu packages
> will work well (or at all) on Debian. Personally, I have no idea, as I
> haven't tried, but I would take a backup first, as they may hose things
> considerably.
>
I am well aware that Ubuntu is not Debian, although, from what I
understand, it may still be derived from, and, based on Debian.
As I had said, the Seamonkey package for Ubuntu, installed and runs
okay on Debian 7, and is the only source that I found, of a .deb
package for Seamonkey, so as to allow Seamonkey to be installed using
a Debian package manager, such as (I think it is) gdebi.
> Here:
> http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
>
> You will find a .zip file of all the drivers and the setup utility for
> all Linux x64 systems - that is an alternative way of installing them.
> Maybe that is a better approach on Debian, I really don't know for
> sure. I am sure Google has some insight on this, I would also check the
> Debian wiki.
>
> First, read this page;
> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian
>
> It contains instructions for how to use these drivers on a Debian
> system. There is even a section there on multiple screens.
>
>> >> I got a dependency problem;
>> >> "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: fglrx-core"
>> >>
>> >> So, I seached in Synaptic, for fglrx, and found
>> >>
>> >> fglrx-driver;
>> >
>> > But that isn't fglrx-core is it? Don't you need something like
>> > fglrx-core_14.201-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
>> >
>>
>> >From whence do I get that?
>
> See above.
>
>> >> So, I searched within Synaptic, for xserver-xorg-video-radeon .
>> >>
>> >> I found that xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon,
>> >> are already installed.
>> >
>> > I take it that's on your wheezy system.
>> >
>>
>> If wheezy is Debian 7 ( - this is on one of my Debian 7 installations
>> - one has this AMD graphics thing, and the other has the nVidia thing,
>> and, after about 16-18 months, I am still trying to get the other
>> installation to work)
>
> By "the other", you mean the AMD one? Or do you have problems with the
> nVidia thing too?
No, by "the other", I meant the Acer V3-772G, with the nVidia GT720M
(I think it is) graphics adaptor.
>
>> > But we were expecting that weren't we? I thought the problem was
>> > that you have this nice new hardware.
>> >
>>
>> It is not "nice" new hardware. This partivular computer was bought to
>> try to determine whether Debian 7 could run an external monitor - it
>> has a different graphics hardware configuration. So far, it is not
>> "nice", as I can't get Debian 7 to run the external monitor, from it.
>
> Many people run Debian on laptops with external monitors, so it should
> be possible to get it to work. The problem in your case seems to be
> that the GPU is only supported by AMD's driver. If you can install
> that you should have better luck.
>
> It is also *possible* that your GPU would be supported by a newer
> version of the "radeon" (open-source) driver, I do not know. Maybe one
> is available in backports.
>
> Petter
>
> --
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>
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Bret Busby
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..............
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