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Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community



On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 05:13:24PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/09/15 2:53 "Bartosz Olender" <bartek.olender@gmail.com>:
> >
> > I am probably one of the few people (at least from what I can see by
> > following this topic) on this mailing list, that don't mind systemd and
> > see that the benefits of switching to it outclass the negatives.
> > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding
> > that "GNU is *Not* Unix" and because of that we should have the freedom
> > to create better solutions, rather than being a UNIX purist and keeping
> > it old-school.
> >
> > Plan 9 is [...]
> 
> Very nice social engineering job. Turned into a nice tarpit, too.
> 
> Guys we've got better things to do than get sucked into this kind of
> quibbling.
> 
> Steve's working on alternatives to debian+systemd.* and I'm trying to
> figure out what useful function systemd and friends really perform so that
> we can make something that the developers can use instead. Steve seems to
> be having more success than I.
> 
> (It looks like dbus was one of the wedges, and that stupid logging daemon,
> but there's another one or two hiding somewhere. The wrecking crew have
> left us a lot of work, poisoning the well to make systemd appear essential.)

Music to my ears!

-- 
Bob Holtzman
Giant intergalactic brain-sucking hyperbacteria 
came to Earth to rape our women and create a race 
of mindless zombies.  Look!  It's working!

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