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Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.



On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:12:15 +1200
Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 07:18:57PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 21:04:40 +1200
> > Chris Bannister <cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hint: unstable does not mean buggy.
> > > 
> > 
> > In theory.
> 
> And in practice. All software has bugs, and hopefully most of the
> showstoppers are caught before the package passes to testing, but that
> is not the reason unstable is called unstable.

Yes, I know that, I've been using it for years. There is definitely a
tendency for it to be buggy, as it takes relatively new upstream
releases.

> 
> > LXDE has been uninstallable for weeks after being broken by an
> > update and the Iceweasel in the repository has four grave bugs.
> > There's a bug somewhere systemy, I think in GTK, which makes a
> > number of scroll bars misbehave. 
> 
> Unstable was, IIRC, referred to as the developers playground. 

More so in the months after a stable release...
> 
> > Synaptic has been occasionally freezing, sometimes taking
> > the whole X display with it, for some weeks.
> 
> Is this just for you?  As an unstable user[1], the onus is on you to
> help track down these issues.
> 
> [1] Also, can be misinterpreted. :)
> 
Probably just me, I have reported it but the person looking into it had
trouble reproducing it. It isn't a segfault, it leaves nothing in any
log, and it only happens after quite a few mouse clicks. I only use
Synaptic when there's an upgrade logjam, so I don't see it often. It
happened last night, and about four or five days ago. It looks to me, a
layman, like some kind of multi-tasking cooperation problem, where
Synaptic either refuses to take the baton or refuses to pass it on.
Either way, a killall Synaptic from another terminal clears things.

-- 
Joe


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