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Re: Using Ubuntu when I'm used to Debian.

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:39:54 -0500
Mike McCarty wrote:
>Chris Metzler wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:19:12 -0400
>> Hal Vaughan wrote:
>>>And that proves even more that you are not volunteering your time
>>>unless you get something for it.  That's not volunteering.
>>>Volunteering is giving without expecting a ROI.
>> This is fiction.  Everyone who volunteers gets a return on their
>> investment; without it, they wouldn't volunteer.  That "return"
>> may not be in some sort of traditional form like cash, goods, or
>> services; but if the volunteer absolutely truly got nothing out
>> of it -- no sense of satisfaction, no gladness at having been
>> able to help another, absolutely nothing -- then there is nothing
>> to drive the volunteer towards that activity as opposed to another.
> That isn't what he was responding to. The term the IRS uses is
> "intangible benefit", I believe. But what he referred to was
> the specific point made that what was built was built specifically
> because the builder/implementer found it useful himself, and
> for no other reason. By any definition, this is not volunteer
> work. Allowing others to use the results is a bonum, yes, perhaps
> even a mitzvah, but not volunteer work.

I understood that.  My exception was merely with the portion
quoted, which I think goes beyond what you say above, and what
was the point of the majority of Mr. Vaughan's reply to Manoj.


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"As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I
have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear

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