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The current distribution has four tulip drivers named tulip, old_tulip, ng_tulip, and tulip_scyld.  Can anyone provide information on the differences that characterize these drivers?
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> debian-user-digest Digest				Volume 2004 : Issue 973
> 
> Today's Topics:
>   Howto get xsane with libusb working   [ Joris Huizer <jorishuizer@planet.nl ]
>   Re: how can I recover the file I've   [ Chris Metzler <cmetzler@speakeasy.n ]
>   Re: how can I recover the file I've   [ Adam Funk <a24061@yahoo.com> ]
>   Re: how can I recover the file I've   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com ]
>   Re: Howto get xsane with libusb work  [ James Tappin <james@tappin.me.uk> ]
>   Re: Soundgrab problem                 [ Cheryl Homiak <chomiak@charter.net> ]
>   Re: Firewall Recommendations          [ Ben Russo <Ben@muppethouse.com> ]
>   Getting flash to work in firefox      [ Jaap Haitsma <jaap@haitsma.org> ]
>   Re: Ever heard of Brief?              [ Roy Pluschke <rjplus@shaw.ca> ]
>   Re: networking problem encountered w  [ Renhao Zhang <thinkren@yahoo.com> ]
>   Re: how to download java class file   [ Brian Brazil <bbrazil@netsoc.tcd.ie ]
>   Re: kde 3.2                           [ Andreas Janssen <andreas.janssen@bi ]
>   Re: Rooted? Could anything innocentl  [ Brian Brazil <bbrazil@netsoc.tcd.ie ]
>   Re: Themes GTK?                       [ Nils-Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Svang=E5rd ]
>   Re: how can I recover the file I've   [ Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com ]
>   grub-install /dev/hda... /dev/.../di  [ gnalle@ruc.dk (Niels L. Ellegaard) ]
>   Re: grub-install /dev/hda... /dev/..  [ "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <dman@dman1 ]
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:03:24 +0100
> From: Joris Huizer <jorishuizer@planet.nl>
> To: Joris Huizer <jorishuizer@planet.nl>
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Howto get xsane with libusb working for normal users (was Re: Howto
>  get an usb scanner working under linux 2.6.3)
> Message-id: <[🔎] 405F2A6C.9080703@planet.nl>
> References: <[🔎] 405DC15F.4080505@planet.nl>
>  <[🔎] 20040321170438.1b2ee722.james@tappin.me.uk> <[🔎] 405DDB91.5020307@planet.nl>
> In-reply-to: <[🔎] 405DDB91.5020307@planet.nl>
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> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to get xsane to work with libusb;
> Now, as root user xsane finds the scanner but as a normal user xsane 
> doesn't find it! This is both on 2.6.3 and 2.4.24 (where I took out the 
> scanner.o module)
> 
> I found this page http://www.freecolormanagement.com/sane/libusb.html 
> about configuring libusb but the scanner still doesn't work. I attach 
> /etc/sane.d/epson.conf, /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap, and 
> /etc/hotplug/usb/epson_scanner I currently have
> 
> Can anybody tell me what's wrong? I've got an Epson Perfection 1650 
> scanner. This is what sane-find-scanner says:
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0110) at libusb:001:004
> 
> It seems the numbers at libusb keep changing I hope I don't have to 
> update settings each time or so :-/
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Joris
> 
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> # epson.conf
> #
> # here are some examples for how to configure the EPSON backend
> #
> # SCSI scanner:
> #scsi EPSON
> 
> #
> # Parallel port scanner:
> #pio 0x278
> #pio 0x378
> #pio 0x3BC
> #
> # USB scanner - only enable this if you have an EPSON scanner. It could
> #               otherwise block your non-EPSON scanner from being 
> #               recognized.
> #		Depending on your distribution, you may need either the
> #		first or the second entry.
> #usb /dev/usbscanner0
> #usb /dev/usb/scanner0
> #usb
> #usb libusb:001:003
> usb 0x04b8 0x0110
> 
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> Content-type: text/plain; name=usb.usermap
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> Content-disposition: inline; filename=usb.usermap
> 
> # This file is installed by the libsane Debian package.
> #
> # Sample entry (replace 0xVVVV and 0xPPPP with vendor ID and product ID 
> respectively) :
> # libusbscanner      0x0003      0xVVVV   0xPPPP    0x0000       0x0000       
> 0x00         0x00            0x00            0x00            0x00               
> 0x00               0x00000000
> #
> # usb module         match_flags idVendor idProduct bcdDevice_lo bcdDevice_hi 
> bDeviceClass bDeviceSubClass bDeviceProtocol bInterfaceClass bInterfaceSubClass 
> bInterfaceProtocol driver_info
> #
> epson_scanner      0x0003      0x04b8   0x0110    0x0000       0x0000       0x00         
> 0x00            0x00            0x00            0x00               0x00               
> 0x00000000
> 
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> Content-type: text/plain; name=epson_scanner
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> Content-disposition: inline; filename=epson_scanner
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> if [ "${ACTION}" = "add" ] && [ -f "${DEVICE}" ]
> then
>   chown root "${DEVICE}"
>   chgrp scanner "${DEVICE}"
>   chmod 660 "${DEVICE}"
> fi
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:42:35 -0500
> From: Chris Metzler <cmetzler@speakeasy.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how can I recover the file I've deleted?
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 20040322134235.14cd1397.cmetzler@speakeasy.net>
> References: <[🔎] 200403230019.01344.blue_stone@xinhuanet.com>
> 	<[🔎] 20040322114139.20005fd0.cmetzler@speakeasy.net>
> 	<[🔎] kSF7c.429$pl.3885185@news-text.cableinet.net>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] kSF7c.429$pl.3885185@news-text.cableinet.net>
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> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:01:52 GMT
> Adam Funk <a24061@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Monday 22 March 2004 16:50, Chris Metzler wrote:
> >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:19:01 +0800
> >> blue_stone <blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I use ext3 fs, and i've deleted some important file ,hao can I
> >>> recover them ?
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, you can't.
> >> 
> >> See about halfway through the ext3 FAQ, at:
> >> 
> >> http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
> > 
> > Doesn't the Midnight Commander undelete utility work on ext3?
> 
> https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2002-June/msg00031.html
> 
> -c
> 
> 
> -- 
> Chris Metzler			cmetzler@speakeasy.snip-me.net
> 		(remove "snip-me." to email)
> 
> "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I
> have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear
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> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:01:52 GMT
> From: Adam Funk <a24061@yahoo.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how can I recover the file I've deleted?
> Message-ID: <[🔎] kSF7c.429$pl.3885185@news-text.cableinet.net>
> References: <[🔎] 200403230019.01344.blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> 
> <[🔎] 20040322114139.20005fd0.cmetzler@speakeasy.net>
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> On Monday 22 March 2004 16:50, Chris Metzler wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:19:01 +0800
> > blue_stone <blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I use ext3 fs, and i've deleted some important file ,hao can I
> >> recover them ?
> > 
> > Unfortunately, you can't.
> > 
> > See about halfway through the ext3 FAQ, at:
> > 
> > http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
> 
> Doesn't the Midnight Commander undelete utility work on ext3?
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:14:11 -0600
> From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how can I recover the file I've deleted?
> Message-ID: <[🔎] c3nadk$4pv$1@sea.gmane.org>
> References: <[🔎] 200403230019.01344.blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> 
> <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.1040322083904.2910A-100000@Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com>
> In-Reply-To: 
> <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.1040322083904.2910A-100000@Maggie.Linux-Consulting.com>
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> Alvin Oga wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, blue_stone wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>I use ext3 fs, and i've deleted some important file ,hao can I recover them ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > see the list of apps for "undeleting"
> > 
> > 	http://linux-sec.net/Txt/erase.txt
> > 
> 
> I did not see mc in there. It has an undelete function that is painless 
> (but only for ext2) but for some reason the Debian package never turns 
> on that function, so I compile mc myself.
> 
> Hugo.
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:47:09 +0000
> From: James Tappin <james@tappin.me.uk>
> To: Joris Huizer <jorishuizer@planet.nl>
> Cc: jorishuizer@planet.nl, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Howto get xsane with libusb working for normal users (was Re:
>  Howto get an usb scanner working under linux 2.6.3)
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 20040322184709.439c8249.james@tappin.me.uk>
> References: <[🔎] 405DC15F.4080505@planet.nl>
> 	<[🔎] 20040321170438.1b2ee722.james@tappin.me.uk>
> 	<[🔎] 405DDB91.5020307@planet.nl>
> 	<[🔎] 405F2A6C.9080703@planet.nl>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 405F2A6C.9080703@planet.nl>
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> On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:03:24 +0100
> Joris Huizer <jorishuizer@planet.nl> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm trying to get xsane to work with libusb;
> > Now, as root user xsane finds the scanner but as a normal user xsane 
> > doesn't find it! This is both on 2.6.3 and 2.4.24 (where I took out the 
> > scanner.o module)
> > 
> > I found this page http://www.freecolormanagement.com/sane/libusb.html 
> > about configuring libusb but the scanner still doesn't work. I attach 
> > /etc/sane.d/epson.conf, /etc/hotplug/usb.usermap, and 
> > /etc/hotplug/usb/epson_scanner I currently have
> > 
> > Can anybody tell me what's wrong? I've got an Epson Perfection 1650 
> > scanner. This is what sane-find-scanner says:
> > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0110) at libusb:001:004
> > 
> > It seems the numbers at libusb keep changing I hope I don't have to 
> > update settings each time or so :-/
> > 
> > Thanks for any help,
> 
> You shouldn't need a new script, just use the libusbscanner that is in
> /etc/hotplug/usb, the pointer to it may need to be in
> /etc/hotplug/usb/libsane.usermap rather than /usr/hotplug.usb.usermap.
> Also just a plain usb in epson.conf (i.e. without the manufacturer and
> model codes) should suffice.
> 
> James
> 
> -- 
> James Tappin,             O__      "I forget the punishment for using
> james@tappin.me.uk       --  \/`    Microsoft --- Something lingering
> http://www.tappin.me.uk/            with data loss in it I fancy"  
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:13:15 -0600 (CST)
> From: Cheryl Homiak <chomiak@charter.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Soundgrab  problem
> Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.4.58.0403221311170.25617@maranatha.charter.net>
> References: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.4.58.0403211812460.9627@maranatha.charter.net>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.4.58.0403211812460.9627@maranatha.charter.net>
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> 
> Well, it must be some kind of bug, because I downgraded to the stable
> version's soundgrab package and that exports for me just fine.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:39:27 -0500
> From: Ben Russo <Ben@muppethouse.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Firewall Recommendations
> Message-ID: <[🔎] c3nbu4$9u7$1@sea.gmane.org>
> References: <43228.8472344682$1079977350@news.gmane.org>
> In-Reply-To: <43228.8472344682$1079977350@news.gmane.org>
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> 
> >>Hi,
> >>We are thinking about replacing our current small office firewall
> >>with something more substantial and reliable. What are the current
> >>debian/iptables based favourites? I'd like to get a good idea of
> >>where to start reading. All suggestions welcome.
> >>
> >>	bill
> 
>  > Harland Christofferson wrote:
>  > i use the firestarted package ... works out pretty well for building
>  > iptables. it has a wizard that is easy to use and allows you to port
>  > forward and set up dynamic rules too.
> 
> Harland,
> 
> Your mail client is top-posting, and it didn't quote the author 
> correctly.  I moved your reply down in this message thread quote...
> 
> Bill,  I use fwbuilder.  If you have ever used CheckPoint, this will
> be very familiar.  There may be a little bit of a learning curve,
> but fwbuilder allows you to build very powerfull rulesets and still
> have them readable at a glance.
> 
> -Ben.
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:56:04 +0100
> From: Jaap Haitsma <jaap@haitsma.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Getting flash to work in firefox
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 405F36C4.1030107@haitsma.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I installed the flash plugin from macromedia for firefox/mozilla, but I 
> get an error during startup.
> 
> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so 
> [libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file 
> or directory]
> 
> I've got the libc6 and libstdc++5 packages installed. I only do not see 
> libc6.2-2.so.3 anywhere on my system.
> 
> So what should I do to get it working?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jaap
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:01:21 -0800
> From: Roy Pluschke <rjplus@shaw.ca>
> To: debian-user-list <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: Ever heard of Brief?
> Message-id: <[🔎] 200403221101.21716.rjplus@shaw.ca>
> References: <[🔎] 87vfkxejfk.fsf_-_@toncho.dhh.gt.org>
>  <[🔎] 016d01c40fc7$9c7db890$388d5bd8@maxnetwork.com>
>  <[🔎] 20040322093526.GA27400@chastell.shot.pl>
> In-reply-to: <[🔎] 20040322093526.GA27400@chastell.shot.pl>
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> 
> On March 22, 2004 01:35, Shot wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > Please don't start a new thread by replaying to
> > a previous message from list, or at least delete
> > the In-Reply-To: headers; it's messing up threading.
> >
> > Anil Gupte:
> > > One particularly neat feature was the ability to cut and paste
> > > columns. I have never since found an editor that does that on
> > > either Windows or Linux. Can anyone point me to such an editor?
> >
> > Vim does this - when you press Ctrl-V
> > in normal mode you can select rectangles.
> >
> 
> Kwrite, Kate and nedit (my personal favourite) all can select rectangles.
> 
> R.J.P.
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:32:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Renhao Zhang <thinkren@yahoo.com>
> To: aurelien.aa@wanadoo.fr
> Cc: debian-user-digest@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: networking problem encountered while installing "Woody"
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20040322183207.50404.qmail@web21324.mail.yahoo.com>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 1079967285.3161.13.camel@orangebud.budies.freedom>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> --- Aurélien_Campéas <aurelien.aa@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> 
> > You have a problem with dhcp here. Are you sure you want it ? It
> > seems
> > like the dhcp client doesn't find a dhcp server...
> > I mean, why not pick up some private ip adress (like 192.168.0.2) and
> > rewrite your eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces as :
> > 
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet static
> >         address 192.168.0.2
> >         netmask 255.255.255.0
> >         network 192.168.0.0
> >         broadcast 192.168.0.255
> 
> I've already tried to do this, hoping the DHCP serving modem might
> accept it.  it didn't work.  When I referenced the bullitin board I
> found with another case of the same situation, your suggestion of
> recompiling the kernel with networking built in was also mentioned. 
> Since it was the only thing I have yet to try, I figured it was worth a
> shot.
> > 
> > Hasn't your windows box a fixed IP already ? If so, just take the
> > same
> > IP...
>  
> no...the windows is a DHCP client as well...
> >
> > This may be simpler than trying to fix dhcp (also I don't have any
> > experience with it so I can't help on that)...
> > 
> Regardless, I appreciate your insights.  Feel free to suggest anything
> that I might look into. 
> > 
> > Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: One
> > and a
> > half.
> > 
> Q: Are they running Woody, Sarge, or Sid?
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
> http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:06:41 +0000
> From: Brian Brazil <bbrazil@netsoc.tcd.ie>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how to download java class file from a web page to loca dir
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20040322190641.GB4917@matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie>
> References: <[🔎] 405EF7B4.6080609@iitg.ernet.in>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 405EF7B4.6080609@iitg.ernet.in>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> 
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 07:57:00PM +0530, J.S.Sahambi wrote:
> > I am using Mozilla 1.6 in Debian/unstable with j2re. I am able to view 
> > java applets with it without any problem. Now in case I want to save the 
> > java.class file in my local dir (so that I can run it later), how do I 
> > do it?
> > 
> > The "File->Save As" saves only the index.html file and NOT the 
> > java-file.class.
> 
> 1) grep \.class index.html
> 2) wget/mozilla/find in cache
> 
> Brian
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:51:17 +0100
> From: Andreas Janssen <andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: kde 3.2
> Message-ID: <[🔎] c3nchj$c3e$1@sea.gmane.org>
> References: <[🔎] 405E5E33.7090302@stx.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> 
> Hello
> 
> Debian STX (<debian@stx.rr.com>) wrote:
> 
> > I've added deb http://ftp.at.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2/Debian
> > stable/main
> > 
> > but does anyone have the apt steps to get kde 3.2 downloaded and
> > installed?
> 
> First you need to run apt-get update to read the list of packages. Next
> you can try to run apt-get upgrade. Probably you will however need to
> run apt-get dist-upgrade because you need to install new packages. Some
> installed packages (like the kde meta packages) will be removed. Wenn I
> installed KDE 3, I removed the existing KDE installation:
> 
> apt-get --purge remove kde.*
> 
> and installed KDE using the group packages:
> 
> apt-get install kdebase kdenetwork kdegames kdeadmin...
> 
> best regards
>         Andreas Janssen
> 
> -- 
> Andreas Janssen <andreas.janssen@bigfoot.com>
> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674
> Registered Linux User #267976
> http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:13:59 +0000
> From: Brian Brazil <bbrazil@netsoc.tcd.ie>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Rooted? Could anything innocently alter the "i" flag?
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20040322191359.GC4917@matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie>
> References: <[🔎] 20040322182125.GF8799@acampbell.org.uk>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 20040322182125.GF8799@acampbell.org.uk>
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> 
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 06:21:25PM +0000, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > Recently I found that the "i" flag had been set on /bin/ps. I removed it
> > with chattr -i. Now the flag has reappeared!
> > 
> > Is there any way this could conceivably happen innocently following
> > routine upgrades via aptitude? Do I have to do a complete reinstall?
> 
> Weird ideas that probably won't work:
> 1) chattr +i /bin - look for error messages
> 2) Any of the bastille packages installed?
> 3) lsof?
> 4) fix chattr, reinstall, get md5sum, wait
> 
> Brian
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:06:54 +0100
> From: Nils-Erik =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Svang=E5rd?= <wizzo@ludd.luth.se>
> To: Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
> Cc: Debian User Mailinglist <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Subject: Re: Themes GTK?
> Message-Id: <[🔎] 1079982413.27752.46.camel@p-nisse>
> References: <[🔎] 1079962863.9215.3.camel@p-nisse>  <[🔎] 87ptb44uy4.fsf@ursine.ca>
> In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 87ptb44uy4.fsf@ursine.ca>
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> Restarting, rebooting and reinstalling dosent change the themes even
> though I use gtk-theme-switch
> /nisse
> 
> On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 19:07, Paul Johnson wrote:
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> > Nils-Erik Svangård <wizzo@ludd.luth.se> writes:
> > 
> > > Hi!
> > > I'm using unstable, and with some applications (Evolution, Abiword,
> > > gnumeric etc) the themes doesnt seem to change when I use
> > > gtk-theme-switch or gtk-theme-switch2. Since both are GTK apps they
> > > should change.
> > > What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Not restarting the GTK programs in question.
> > 
> > - -- 
> >  .''`.     Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
> > : :'  :    
> > `. `'`     proud Debian admin and user
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> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:12:08 -0600
> From: Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601@care2.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: how can I recover the file I've deleted?
> Message-ID: <[🔎] c3ndq8$g29$1@sea.gmane.org>
> References: <[🔎] 200403230019.01344.blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> 
> <[🔎] 20040322114139.20005fd0.cmetzler@speakeasy.net> 
> <[🔎] kSF7c.429$pl.3885185@news-text.cableinet.net>
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> Adam Funk wrote:
> > On Monday 22 March 2004 16:50, Chris Metzler wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:19:01 +0800
> >>blue_stone <blue_stone@xinhuanet.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I use ext3 fs, and i've deleted some important file ,hao can I
> >>>recover them ?
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, you can't.
> >>
> >>See about halfway through the ext3 FAQ, at:
> >>
> >>http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html
> > 
> > 
> > Doesn't the Midnight Commander undelete utility work on ext3?
> > 
> > 
> 
> No. And... that option is (in my installations) absent from the Debian 
> package.
> 
> Hugo
> Date: 22 Mar 2004 20:18:19 +0100
> From: gnalle@ruc.dk (Niels L. Ellegaard)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: grub-install /dev/hda... /dev/.../disc does not have any corresponding 
> BIOS drive
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 7w7jxcadxg.fsf@i19.ruc.dk>
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> 
> I tried changing bootloader from lilo to grub, but I am stuck halfway
> in the process, and I am slightly afraid of rebooting. (BTW I am using
> debian testing). Here is what I did
> 
> root:gnalle# apt-get install grub grub-doc
> 
> root:gnalle# grub-install /dev/hda
> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not have any correspondin
> 
> root:gnalle# update-grub
> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 does not have any correspondi
> 
> I tried looking at google, but I could not understand what was the
> reason for the errors. I would be grateful for any hint or
> enlighteling flame.
> 
> If I reboot now, will my lilo still be working or will my system try
> to boot from a malfunctional grub? Where should I look to find out?
> 
>                    Thanks in advance
> 
>                         Niels
> 
> 
> A bit of extra info:
> 
> root:gnalle# cat /etc/mtab
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 /home ext3 rw 0 0
> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
> usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
> none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
> 
> root:gnalle# cat /etc/fstab
> # /etc/fstab: information om statisk filsystem.
> #
> # <filsystem>   <monteringspunkt>       <type>  <tilvalg>
> <tjek>  <priort>
> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro
> 0       1
> /dev/hda2       none            swap    sw                      0
> 0
> proc            /proc           proc    defaults
> 0       0
> /dev/fd0        /floppy         auto    defaults,user,noauto
> 0       0
> /dev/cdrom      /cdrom          iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto
> 0       0
> /dev/hda1       /boot   ext2    defaults                        0
> 2
> /dev/hda4       /home   ext3    defaults                        0
> 2
> /dev/hdb1      /w2k     vfat    uid=500,gid=100,umask=002,noauto  0
>    0
> 
> root:gnalle# grub-install /dev/hda1
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 does not have any corresponding
> BIOS drive.
> root:gnalle# grub-install /dev/hda3
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 does not have any corresponding
> BIOS drive.
> root:gnalle# grub-install /dev/hda4
> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part4 does not have any corresponding
> BIOS drive.
> 
> root:gnalle# ls /boot/grub
> device.map
> root:gnalle# cat /boot/grub/device.map 
> (fd0)   /dev/fd0
> (hd0)   /dev/hda
> (hd1)   /dev/hdb
> 
> 
> -- 
> Niels L Ellegaard  http://dirac.ruc.dk/~gnalle/
> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:14 -0500
> From: "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: grub-install /dev/hda... /dev/.../disc does not have any 
> corresponding BIOS drive
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20040322195113.GA10622@dman13.dyndns.org>
> References: <[🔎] 7w7jxcadxg.fsf@i19.ruc.dk>
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> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 08:18:19PM +0100, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote:
> |=20
> | I tried changing bootloader from lilo to grub, but I am stuck halfway
> | in the process, and I am slightly afraid of rebooting. (BTW I am using
> | debian testing). Here is what I did
> |=20
> | root:gnalle# apt-get install grub grub-doc
> |=20
> | root:gnalle# grub-install /dev/hda
> | Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
> | /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc does not have any correspondin
> |=20
> | root:gnalle# update-grub
> | Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
> | /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 does not have any correspondi
> 
> Edit /boot/grub/device.map and change the line that says
>     (hd0)   /dev/hda
> to
>     (hd0)   /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
> 
> grub-install doesn't handle the devfs-style symlink naming as
> gracefully as it ought.
> 
> | If I reboot now, will my lilo still be working
> 
> Probably.
> 
> | or will my system try
> | to boot from a malfunctional grub?
> 
> Possibly, but I don't think it will.
> 
> | Where should I look to find out?
> 
> The screen, while you are trying to boot ;-).
> 
> Seriously, though, you should have a floppy disk or cd handy to boot
> if necessary.
> 
> -D
> 
> --=20
> Microsoft is to operating systems & security ....
>                                     .... what McDonald's is to gourmet cook=
> ing
> =20
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/            jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.=
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