Re: OT: debian-beer
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:11, John Griffiths wrote:
> >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?????
>
> just darwin
Darwinians (Darwinites?) obviously didn't like it much,
but it's an awful huge leap from "Darwin got the crap bombed
out of it" to "we got the crap bombed out of us". (Unless
John P. Foster is from Darwin!!)
> >Very strong internal isolationist sentiments allowed even
> >Lend-Lease to only pass Congress after major arm-twisting by
> >Roosevelt. The only reason the the USN was able to help
> >with GB in the BoA before 07-Dec was by not making it public
> >knowledge.
>
> it's that sentiment that really pissed off the rest of us
Why????????
> >If FDR _had_ followed US neutrality laws, .uk would now be
> >.de.
>
> not so sure the Brits were ready unleash a chemical armageddon if the
> Germans had managed to land troops, it would have been hideous, but I
> wouldn't like to try and pick a winner.
Yeah, I'd forgotten about all those gas masks issued to all
Brits in ~1939.
> >If we (along, of course, with help from Coastwatchers and RAN)
> >hadn't been able to hold on to Guadalcanal, it would have been
> >impossible to support ANZ even after Coral Sea.
>
> don't get us started about losing half of our fleet (the RAN) to american
> fire at the battle of Savo Island simply because they didn't look like
> american ships
Jeez. What was left of the PacFlt had barely been in the war
for 5 months... I'm going to hazard a guess, but by 1943, I bet
we weren't making those kinds of mistakes any more.
> >Does the rest of the world think we've been a super-power since
> >1776? Up until _late_ 1941, the US _never_ever_ had anything
> >but a _tiny_ standing Army.
>
> 1917? 1861-65?
Don't forget the War of 1812 & the Spanish-American War.
I said _standing_ Army, i.e. Army When There Is No War.
If you ask "What about the (American) Indian Wars?", the
answer is: there were so gosh darned _few_ of them, that,
although it took the Army 25ish years to do it, a large
army wasn't needed.
> >Is that some veiled reference to some hypothetical Indonesia-
> >of-the-future?
> >
>
> actually the indonesia of the Sukarno era, watching them swallow timor and
> west papua made us a little nervous.
Really? I must look that up...
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