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At 03:52 AM 9/16/98 -0000, you wrote:
>debian-user-digest Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 954
>
>Today's Topics:
>  Hamm post-install blues - wvdial vs   [ Ken Westerback <krw@tcn.net> ]
>  Re: Linux for Disabled -- Contact so  [ robbie@scot-mur.demon.co.uk ]
>  Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #9  [ Preston Landers <planders@mail.utex ]
>  Re: XEmacs novice customisation       [ David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk ]
>  Re: XEmacs novice customisation       [ Matt Garman <garman@crh3019.urh.uiu ]
>  xgalaga: can't fire!                  [ Matt Garman <garman@crh3019.urh.uiu ]
>  GTKICQ                                [ Phillip Neumann <filsin@bigfoot.com ]
>  Re: Fw: PPP and wtmp not working tog  [ "Gavan Murphy" <gjm@acis.com.au> ]
>  Re: ACK! Help me restore my console!  [ Ian Eure <ieure@crosssound.narrows. ]
>  Re: is this possible with emacs?      [ "DMDP" <dmdp@miracle.net> ]
>  IP Firewalling/Forwarding baffles me  [ "Kendall P. Bullen" <kpb@lists.tax. ]
>  Re: is this possible with emacs?      [ Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ ]
>  Re: g++/gcc system errors             [ Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ ]
>  q: Web/Mail Server                    [ deans <deans@crl.com> ]
>  Re: anonymous ftp                     [ Michael Beattie <mickyb@es.co.nz> ]
>  Re: ACK! Help me restore my console!  [ Ian Eure <ieure@crosssound.narrows. ]
>  Re: Debian DSELECT                    [ Michael Beattie <mickyb@es.co.nz> ]
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:06:14 +0000
>From: Ken Westerback <krw@tcn.net>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Hamm post-install blues - wvdial vs pon/wmppp
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 35FF00F6.12C31D98@tcn.net>
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>When I installed Debian 2.0 I chose 'Dial-Up' and got the large number
>of useful packages included in that selection. The first time (let's not
>count the retries) I installed it I postponed the configuration of
>wvdial, not knowing what it was for, and followed the instructions in
>the Installation document for getting on-line with pon/poff. Life was
>good and just got better with the discovery of the 'dialout' and 'dip'
>groups and wmppp. 
>
>Then I blew up my disk playing with another O.S. that shall remain
>nameless since it was my fault and not its. 
>
>When I re-installed Debian this time I did not defer the configuration
>of wvdial and was pleasantly pleased with its ease of use to establish
>the ppp connection I needed. I like the speed dialing especially. I
>really should reconfigure and save the modem setting for that ... But
>when I went to install and use wmppp it wouldn't dial out. Further
>investigation revealed that pon did not work either. 
>
>I futzed about with the various configuration files for pppd, etc. with
>no great success, tried pppconfig with equal lack of progress. Finally I
>did 'dpkg --purge wvdial' and ran pppconfig again. Now pon/poff and
>wmppp work and I can get back to getting dial on demand working with
>diald.
>
>However, I am left with two questions. 1) Why did wvdial interfere with
>the operation of pon/wmppp? 2) Why install this package as part of the
>'dialout' selection but have no mention of it in the Installation paper
>that details how to get online via pon?
>
>---- Ken
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:37:07 +0100
>From: robbie@scot-mur.demon.co.uk
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Linux for Disabled -- Contact sought
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980916003707.D12174@scot-mur.demon.co.uk>
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>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 03:54:26PM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
>> 
>> I know of blinux for the visually impared. I do not have the website handy
>> but you can find it from www.linux.org I think. That site might have other
>> links to Linux for the disabled. 
>
>blinux is at http://leb.net/blinux/ I think.
>
>Regards
>-- 
>
>Robbie Murray
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:18:40 -0500
>From: Preston Landers <planders@mail.utexas.edu>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, nebu@shaw.wave.ca
>Subject: Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #953
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 35FF03E0.49101DD4@mail.utexas.edu>
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>> Subject: Weird fonts problem in X
>> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 22:45:30 +0000
>> From: nebu@shaw.wave.ca
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> 
>> I get messages that seem to indicate some fonts are missing, but I can't
>> figure out how to fix it. If anyone has a clue please tell me!
>> 
>> Here's what Netscape says when it tries to run:
>> Warning: Cannot convert string
>> "-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to type FontStruct
>
>Question: Are you running KDE?  This same problem happens to me only
>when I am running KDE, not another window manager.  Especially in KDE
>1.0. The problem seems to go away when using a more recent unstable
>snapshot, but unfortunately of course, those tend to introduce more new
>bugs than they fix.  I don't really have a solution for you ... I wish I
>did, because I am going to have to switch back to FVWM because this is
>annoying.
>
>---Preston
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:27:27 +0000
>From: David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk>
>To: Matt Garman <garman@uiuc.edu>
>CC: Debian User's List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: XEmacs novice customisation
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 35FDB46F.92ED6CFB@sundayta.co.uk>
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>Matt,
>
>Thanks for your reply.
>
>I have been attempting the (x)emacs way of selecting text as you
>describe and I agree the functionality is similar but I find it is not
>as easy for me to remember. All I needed to remember in MultiEdit was
>that the cursor keys worked, the control key made them go further and
>the shift key caused selection. The Control xc and v are easy to
>remember due to their logical position together on the keyboard.
>
>>From looking at sample.emacs it appears relatively easy to change the
>Ctrl-W (I ask you W meaning cut - someone has a sense of humour) to
>Ctrl-X and the same for Meta-W and Ctrl-Y (yank! = horrible name for
>inserting text).
>
>That leaves me with getting used to Ctrl-Space (which is a long way from
>the cursor keys) unless I can get the shift to replace it.
>
>> Well...  I find mouse cut'n'paste with Unix easier than windows.  If I
>> wanted to select the quoted text above, I would use mouse button1 (my
>> left-most button), press it, and drag the mouse over the text I
>> wanted.  Upon releasing the mouse button, the region should remain
>> highlighted.
>
>The fact that in Unix if I select text and then press delete (or any
>key) and it does not disapear seems really odd. Also the fact that it is
>too easy to get text into the paste buffer - by that I mean highlight
>with your mouse, and then accidently click the middle button and you
>paste it, I prefer to make an extra step to select, then copy, cut,
>delete or paste and so control what goes in the paste buffer.
>
>I definately do not want to start any kind of flame war on this. I
>believe that our preferences here are simply due to the what we learnt
>first (the best block support I have ever used was in MultiEdit on
>msdos). I also believe that as (x)emacs is so very customizable that it
>should be able to support both our preferred way of working. The only
>dificulty is learning how to do the customization.
>
>> I don't know if this is the default behavior -- I have the gpm package
>> installed, and that may be what does this for me.  (On the other hand,
>> I compiled xemacs 20 withOUT gpm support, and this still works...
>> <shrug>).
>
>
>gpm has caused me problems so I disabled it. I have a MS Intellimouse on
>a PS/2 port. This works fine with gpm unless I have run X then the mouse
>goes crazy back in a virtual console with it automatically selecting
>text and moving erratically.
>
>> Good luck!
>
>Thanks.
>
>Dave
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:41:55 -0500
>From: Matt Garman <garman@crh3019.urh.uiuc.edu>
>To: David Warnock <david@sundayta.co.uk>,
>  Debian User's List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: XEmacs novice customisation
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980915194155.A31536@crh3019.urh.uiuc.edu>
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>
>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 12:27:27AM +0000, David Warnock wrote:
>> I definately do not want to start any kind of flame war on this. I
>> believe that our preferences here are simply due to the what we learnt
>> first (the best block support I have ever used was in MultiEdit on
>> msdos). I also believe that as (x)emacs is so very customizable that it
>> should be able to support both our preferred way of working. The only
>> dificulty is learning how to do the customization.
>
>Another thing you may want to consider: do you absolutely need some
>breed of emacs?  There are several text editors available for linux,
>and I'm sure that some try to emulate DOS-style editors.  I'm totally
>guessing, buy there could be a Linux MultiEdit clone available.
>
>I'm a keyboard junkie, too...  I prefer it to the mouse.  <shrug>
>
>Good luck!
>Matt
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:44:23 -0500
>From: Matt Garman <garman@crh3019.urh.uiuc.edu>
>To: Debian User's List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: xgalaga: can't fire!
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980915194423.A31623@crh3019.urh.uiuc.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>I installed the xgalaga deb.  It works, mostly (even sound!)...except
>for the space key: I can't fire!  And the "q" and "Q" keys are also
>useless.
>
>Really, I can only move back and forth, which is pretty boring.
>Anyone know what's up?
>
>Thanks
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:07:00 +0000
>From: Phillip Neumann <filsin@bigfoot.com>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: GTKICQ
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 35FF0F34.2C95EC5B@bigfoot.com>
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>Hi,
>
>
>I need urgently be able to use ICQ. I think gtkicq is the better choice,
>isnit ?
>So i donwload gtkicq version 0.53. 
>I have done /autogen.sh --prefix=/usr   and it went ok.
>Now when making `make' linux said:
>	bla, bla
>	make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/filsin/temp/gtkicq-0.53/support'
>	make[2]: Entering directory `/home/filsin/temp/gtkicq-0.53/support'
>	make[2]: *** No rule to make target
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/include/stddef.h', needed by
>`long-options.lo'.  	Stop.
>	make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/filsin/temp/gtkicq-0.53/support'
>	make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>	make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/filsin/temp/gtkicq-0.53'
>	make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
>
>
>
>
>why is gtkicq saing something about redhat ??
>HOw should i succsessful compile it ?
> 
>
>
>
>
>thanks,
>-- 
>
>
>
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>                              /      Phillip  Neumann       /
>                             /     filsin@bigfoot.com      /
>____________________________/_____________________________/
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:22:55 +1000
>From: "Gavan Murphy" <gjm@acis.com.au>
>To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: Fw: PPP and wtmp not working together
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 004b01bde110$892ff5f0$e3e60ecb@genesis.acis.com.au>
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>Hi Folks,
>
>Peter and Jens have commented on this matter already, but I have a slight
>variation on the theme. I can get wtmp entries made when the user connects
>and initiates PPPD, but I fail to get a corresponding entry in wtmp when the
>session is complete. It is not until another user gets that ttyC* port that
>the wtmp entries actually reflect that the previous user is logged out.
>
>Has anyone seen this behaviour before. A cure would be very nice.
>
>System - debian 2.0.30 kernel, libc5 - 5.4.33-3, libc6 - 2.0.4-1, ppp
>2.2.0f-23, mgetty 1.1.7-4
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Gavan
>
>Jens B. Jorgensen wrote (jjorgens@bdsinc.com) wrote:
>
>>Well, actually it isn't pppd's job to make a utmp/wtmp entry. That job
>belongs to mgetty. The 'login' option just
>>tells pppd to authenticate users with passwords from /etc/passwd (or
>/etc/shadow, as the case may be). There's
>>a chicken-and-egg problem here because though it's mgetty's job to make the
>entry, when dialin users
>>authenticate with PAP/CHAP by that time mgetty is no longer running.
>
>>I believe that using ppp-pam will alleviate this problem. The pam module
>used to authenticate should also take
>>care of logging the utmp/wtmp entries (though reading the documentation I
>don't see anything which more than
>>suggests this). Get the ppp-pam package, give it a try, and let me know if
>it does indeed make the proper
>>entries.
>
>>Peter Iannarelli wrote:
>
>    -----Original Message-----
>  From: Peter Iannarelli <peter@genxl.com>
>  To: Debian ISP <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>
>  Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 6:39 PM
>  Subject: PPP and wtmp not working togetherHello: I read today that in 2.0,
>a ppp account is not getting loggedinto the wtmp file. I
>  decided to check this out and low andbehold I was unable to get a wtmp
>entry for a ppp account. I started to play around in the
>  /etc/mgetty/login.config filewhich as installed reads         /AutoPPP/ -
>a_ppp   /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login  I changed it
>  to     /AutoPPP/ -    -     /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login and
>/AutoPPP/ -    *    /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login and
>  /AutoPPP/ -    @    /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login No login line
>showed up for a finger or who commandand there was no
>  wtmp entry for the account. I then changed the line to     /AutoPPP/ -
>userId   /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login An and the
>  entries I was expecting. Can someone tell me how to configure login.config
>or ppp tolog and display active ppp user ids.  Peter
>
>
>
>--
>Jens B. Jorgensen
>jjorgens@bdsinc.com
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------
>Gavan Murphy    (g.murphy@acis.com.au)
>Australian Corporate Information Solutions
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:37:18 -0700
>From: Ian Eure <ieure@crosssound.narrows.com>
>To: TheKman <nfn11988@naples.net>
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: ACK! Help me restore my console!
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980915183718.A7090@crosssound.narrows.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Don't think a "reset" will do it, as that just manipulates the terminal
>behaviours... I'll give it a shot anyways in a minute though.
>
>As for the ``shutdown -r now'', I know that I can reboot the system and
>be fine, I just want to fix this without doing that, as I stated in the
>last sentence of my previous message.
>
>I have X running on the console (login to another box, ssh over to the
>borken one, screen, startx, detatch) - I just can't get the text vtys
>back to normal. Tried running a SVGALib program. No dice. The only
>thing that works is X.
>
>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 02:38:38PM -0400, TheKman wrote:
>> Did you try typing reset. Or just typing shutdown -r now. Even if you
>> can't see it a lot of the times the computers sees what you are typing.
>> 
>> Ian Eure wrote:
>> > 
>> > Ok. Interesting thing happened. Accidentally killed my X server
remotely with
>> > -9. Oops. I come back down to the console and it's all FUBARd. OK. So I try
>> > a couple things ssh'ing from another box, like SVGATextMode & such. No
dice.
>> > I can get X running, but my text console is dead. Anyone have any
suggestions
>> > on how to get it back without a reboot?
>> > 
>>
>
>-- 
> ______________________________________________________________
>| ian eure, network admin, freelance security consultant, and  |
>| manically depressed paranoid schizophrenic, at your service. |
>;           <ieure@minion.org> - http://minion.org             ;
>:           raw speed = 105.6 wpm with 4.5% errors             :
>.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:29:10 -0400
>From: "DMDP" <dmdp@miracle.net>
>To: "Ulisses Alonso Camaro" <ulisses@pusa.eleinf.uv.es>
>Cc: "debian-user" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: is this possible with emacs? 
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 008301bde111$690571a0$2a4a4ccf@dmdp>
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>Yes.
>
>Emacs recognizes C++ by the file extension ... cc, cpp, etc.  The program
>also has functions, such as ESC a, ESC e, to browse to the beginning and end
>of statments and to browse between errors.
>
>D.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ulisses Alonso Camaro <ulisses@pusa.eleinf.uv.es>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 10:12 AM
>Subject: is this possible with emacs?
>
>
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>>Hi all,
>>
>>I would like to know if there is some kind of "source navigator" mode to
>>browse C/C++ under emacs.
>>
>>I'm Looking something like Microsoft VC++ browsing or Linux Source Code
>>Navigator (Linux's kernel source with full hyperlink references to be used
>>with a WWW browser)
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Ulisses
>>Oracle and Informix will be ported to Linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>http://www.infoworld.com/cgi-bin/displayStory.pl?980717.whorlinux.htm
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>Picasso
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>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:50:14 -0400 (EDT)
>From: "Kendall P. Bullen" <kpb@lists.tax.org>
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: IP Firewalling/Forwarding baffles me
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.980915213335.10932A-100000@lists.tax.org>
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>Hi All,
>
>If some kind soul could help, I'd appreciate it.  :-) The HOWTO
>instructions don't seem to work correctly (but more than likely, my
>lack of understanding is at fault), so I plea for help.  :-)
>
>THE MACHINES: The firewall machine is running that latest Debian.
>Aside from a few default things, I've configured the dummy net driver,
>installed ipchains, and have two NICs in it.  I can ping the Internet
>and the protected machine just fine -- the NICs auto-configured once I
>picked a suitable (?!) driver.  I can ping the firewall from without
>and within (using the appropriate IP addresses).  The external
>interface has an IP address on our network -- the internal one has
>192.168.2.3 (which I read is one of those private network addresses).
>
>The protected machine is running Solaris 2.5.1 (possible to be
>upgraded to 2.6).  It has another 'private' IP address, 192.168.2.2.
>(Using those private network numbers seemed like a good idea for
>security reasons.)  It can ping the IP address of the firewall, but
>nothing else.
>
>THE PLAN; A few fortunate souls should be able to reach the protected
>machine via WWW (port 80, the default) from the Internet.  Also, a few
>machine on our local network should be able to reach the protected
>machine on several different ports (including 80).
>
>HOW TO DO IT?!  The commands in the HOWTO didn't appear to work.  I
>tried installing ipchains and using that + ipportfw, but ipchains
>didn't like the commands I was giving it (tho' I got them from someone
>on this list, methinks.
>
>I can give more details about what's configured how, and what I want
>to do, but I'm really at a loss as to how I'm supposed to do this
>stuff.  The HOWTO made it sound like I could use private network
>addresses or not, as I chose, but ipportfw almost seems like a
>requirement in that case (versus plain old IP forwarding), else how do
>the external machines reach the 'hidden' one?  I think part of my
>problem may be how the 'hidden' machine's configured (default router,
>domain, etc.), but the HOWTO didn't really cover that. . . .
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>Kendall P. Bullen
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:55:50 +0200
>From: Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
>To: DMDP <dmdp@miracle.net>, Ulisses Alonso Camaro <ulisses@pusa.eleinf.uv.es>
>Cc: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: is this possible with emacs?
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980916035550.B24229@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 09:29:10PM -0400, DMDP wrote:
>> >I would like to know if there is some kind of "source navigator" mode to
>> >browse C/C++ under emacs.
>
>Investigate etags.
>
>Marcus
>
>-- 
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>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:59:41 +0200
>From: Marcus Brinkmann <Marcus.Brinkmann@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
>To: garman@students.uiuc.edu, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: g++/gcc system errors
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 19980916035941.C24229@ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
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>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 04:29:39PM -0500, Matt Garman wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> While working on some C++ code for a programming assignment, I got the
>> following error:
>> 
>> /usr/lib/crt1.o(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `main'
>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>> 
>> And that is simply after typing "g++ <file>.cc"
>
>You don't have a main() function.
>
>> The other error is as follows:
>> 
>> If I mistakenly type "gcc <file>.cc" :
>> 
>> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
>> 
>> I know the correct thing to do is to call g++ explicitly when
>> compiling C++ code, but I'd like to fix the error.
>
>What error? gcc is for C, g++ is for C++. You can use g++ with most C
>programs, but not the other way round. The reason is because we use a
>complex setup, where gcc is actually gcc 2.7.2.3 and g++ is egcs2.9x.yy.
>
>This is all for your benefit. The drawback is that you can't compile C++
>programs with gcc, but who wants to do so anyway?
>
>Marcus
>
>-- 
>"Rhubarb is no Egyptian god."        Debian GNU/Linux        finger brinkmd@ 
>Marcus Brinkmann                   http://www.debian.org    master.debian.org
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>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:11:15 -0700
>From: deans <deans@crl.com>
>To: "NewsList: Debian Digest" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: q: Web/Mail Server
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>I am bringing a 256k DSL into my home to connect my Debian Linux
>Server to.  I plan to use it as a Web Server.  I am currently running
>the simple Mosaic Web Server software on it because all I really
>need to do is serve up HTML, but I have a few questions for anyone
>who might have an opinion or the time to respond:
>
>1. Should I move to Apache, even if I don't need that much power?
>   Would it be best because everyone else is running Apache and I
>   can get better support?
>2. Before I place this online, is there any suggestions anyone would
>   make that would help secure the box before placing it online?
>   Are there any specific packages I should not have installed?
>   I should let you know, I will have it behind a Cisco 765 ADSL
>   Router with Firewall/Packet Filtering, I plan to filter
>   everything coming in out and I will only allow port 80 that is
>   coming in for the Server's IP address.
>3. Lastly, I would also like to use it as a Mail Server.  Should
>   I just use Sendmail?  or is there another package that would
>   be easier to use and manage?
>
>Thanks
>
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>deans@crl.com
>http://www.crl.com/~deans
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:33:48 +1200 (NZST)
>From: Michael Beattie <mickyb@es.co.nz>
>To: Eric Jensen <jenseri@charlie.cns.iit.edu>
>cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: anonymous ftp
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>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Eric Jensen wrote:
>
>> Well, I reinstalled the debs, and it didn't help..same problems.  Anyone
>> else got ideas?
>> 
>
>I just created an anonymous ftp account for my system, copied the libs
>from /lib as specified below, and it worked fine.
>
>> 
>> On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Thomas Apel wrote:
>> 
>> > Eric Jensen wrote:
>> > > 
>> > > I've been having some problems getting anonymous ftp to work properly on
>> > > my system.  I've set up most everything in the way that the manpage for
>> > > in.ftpd told me too, but it refers to a program pw_mkdb which I can't
seem
>> > > to find anywhere.  In any case, I don't believe that the lack of a pw.db
>> > > file in my /home/ftp/etc directory is the cause of my troubles.  I
haven't
>> > > been able to get ls to work properly.  Whenever I ftp to my computer and
>> > > try to list the contents of the directory, nothing shows up in the list.
>> > > The stuff is definitely there and readable, cause I can download it, I
>> > > just can't get the listing to work.  I do have ls in the /home/ftp/bin
>> > > directory and it is executable by all.
>> > > 
>> > > Can anyone help?
>> > 
>> > You also need the following libs in /home/ftp/ls:
>> > 
>> > maggie:~# ll /home/ftp/lib/
>> > total 802
>> > -r-xr-xr-x   1 root     root       164094 Jul  4 20:53 ld-2.0.7.so
>> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           11 Aug 30 21:09 ld-linux.so.2 ->
>> > ld-2.0.7.so
>> > -r-xr-xr-x   1 root     root       650904 Jul  4 20:53 libc-2.0.7.so
>> > lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           13 Aug 30 21:09 libc.so.6 ->
>> > libc-2.0.7.so
>> > 
>> > "ldd /bin/ls" shows you the used libs BTW.
>> > 
>> > Thomas
>> > 
>> 
>> 
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>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:15:12 -0700
>From: Ian Eure <ieure@crosssound.narrows.com>
>To: chandran@c9c1.erols.com
>Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: ACK! Help me restore my console!
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>No... This is not the problem. As I said, X crashed. This makes the X
>server quit without restoring the display, so you just get your X
>desktop sitting there. You can restart X remotely, but when you exit,
>it restores the previous mode, eg a graphical mode instead of a text
>console. When I close my current (working) X session, I get static, my
>monitor displays a "NO SIGNAL OR RANGE OUT SIGNAL" message and goes
>into sleep mode.
>
>Yes, I know what FUBAR means. However, I use the term FUBAR as an
>adjective.
>
>I did say that the console got FUBARd by killing the X server with -9,
>perhaps my assumption that people on this list had prior experience
>with this happening was unreasonable. Try it sometime, it's interesting.
>
>On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 09:58:23PM -0500, chandran@c9c1.erols.com wrote:
>> rtfm, stfw, it's in the howtos
>> cat
>> ^O^D
>> ^C
>> 
>> describing as just `fubar' doesn't really help people help you
>> 
>> btw do you know what fubar means, the d at the end is wrong
>> 
>> Ian Eure wrote on Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 06:37:18PM -0700..
>> > Don't think a "reset" will do it, as that just manipulates the terminal
>> > behaviours... I'll give it a shot anyways in a minute though.
>> > 
>> > As for the ``shutdown -r now'', I know that I can reboot the system and
>> > be fine, I just want to fix this without doing that, as I stated in the
>> > last sentence of my previous message.
>> > 
>> > I have X running on the console (login to another box, ssh over to the
>> > borken one, screen, startx, detatch) - I just can't get the text vtys
>> > back to normal. Tried running a SVGALib program. No dice. The only
>> > thing that works is X.
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Sep 15, 1998 at 02:38:38PM -0400, TheKman wrote:
>> > > Did you try typing reset. Or just typing shutdown -r now. Even if you
>> > > can't see it a lot of the times the computers sees what you are typing.
>> > > 
>> > > Ian Eure wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > Ok. Interesting thing happened. Accidentally killed my X server
remotely with
>> > > > -9. Oops. I come back down to the console and it's all FUBARd. OK.
So I try
>> > > > a couple things ssh'ing from another box, like SVGATextMode & such.
No dice.
>> > > > I can get X running, but my text console is dead. Anyone have any
suggestions
>> > > > on how to get it back without a reboot?
>
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>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:44:04 +1200 (NZST)
>From: Michael Beattie <mickyb@es.co.nz>
>To: Greg Frye <gfrye@arb.ca.gov>
>cc: Debian User List <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>Subject: Re: Debian DSELECT
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>On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Greg Frye wrote:
>
>> I have 4 NT Servers running MS SQL Server 6.5 and though there is a lot
>> of documentation, it isn't always that easy to follow or necessarily
>> accurate.  I have found Linux support through this mailing list and
>> other newsgroups to be FAR superior to paid MS tech support (and
>> faster).
>
>Sorry, not really about the thread, but I would agree here, there are a
>lot of "jewels" of information floating around this mailing list, and they
>are all astoundingly helpful when you least expect it.. anyway, M$ get's
>you to pay right? aren't they like all big businesses? make you pay
>through the nose... hmmm..
>
>"Welcome to Microsoft's Automated Tech support service. Calls cost $10
>per second, with a minimum billing of $100. Press one to find out how to
>start windows. Press two to find out how to install a new mouse. Press
>three to find out how to open a program. Press four......"
>
>                       Michael Beattie (mickyb@es.co.nz)
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