Re: Getting rid of section "base" ?
Goswin Brederlow writes:
> Yann Dirson <ydirson@altern.org> writes:
> ...
> > tty
> > tty/stdio
> > tty/curses
> > tty/dialog
> > tty/newt
> >
> > X11
> > X11/Xt
> > X11/Xt/Xaw
> > X11/Xt/Motif
> > X11/Gtk+
> > X11/Gtk+/GNOME
> > X11/Qt
> > X11/Qt/KDE
> > X11/Tk
>
> I wuld suggest to use a syntax like this in the Packages file:
>
> Interface: tty (stdio, dialog), X11 (Xt, Qt)
Problem I see: we can't sub-classify Xaw and Motif from Xt with such a
syntax.
> The main interfaces seperated by commas and subtypes in brackets.
> Also Interfaces none, net/html and such, ggi, svga and tty/aa should
> be included. Anything I forgot?
"things" with interface net/html falls into the "server" nature, and
probably declaring this would not be useful in the packaging system.
"UserInterface: none" is a pure contradiction IMHO. At least error
messages have to reported in some way.
OK for ggi, svga and tty/aa - just noticed I forgot X/DGA.
...and there are probably tens or hundreds of toolkits (eg. wings) in
the dist which we did not mention - but is this really worth at all ?
Probably if we decide to go this way, only the major UIs will be
listed, minor ones may fall into "other" as examplified below:
Update:
tty
tty/stdio
tty/curses
tty/dialog
tty/newt
tty/asciiArt
tty/other
X11
X11/Xt
X11/Xt/Xaw
X11/Xt/Motif
X11/Xt/other
X11/Gtk+
X11/Gtk+/GNOME
X11/Qt
X11/Qt/KDE
X11/Tk
X11/DGA
X11/other
ggi
svgalib
> I also think that the interface should not show up on the layout of
> the debian file structure (ftp/cdrom). People looking for a package to
> do something don´t so much care for the interface as long as it does
> the job. For other cases where the interface matters the Interface
> value from the Packages file can be used in a frontend.
Seconded.
> Maybe program should be split up further into stuff like games and
> such.
In my mind "games" is still a section - eg. you'll find clanlib as
"Nature: lib; Section: games".
> Also where do windowmanagers go?
X11 - windowmanagers are really components of the X11 GUI. They're
already in this section and I'm happy with that.
> I would like sections for games, graphics, utils
We already have them.
> interfaces.
Hm... X11 has its own. Maybe it could be ui/x11, and other UI stuff
ggi and Tk would fall under ui, ui/x11 or ui/other unless we decide
there are enough packages to create eg. ui/ggi.
> > 2. UserInterface: A list of ways the programs in the package interact
> > with their users. Possible values are to be defined by policy,
> > examples are given at the top of this mail.
> >
> > 3. Section: [As the current packaging manual says] the Section
> > represents an application area into which the package has been
> > classified.
>
> Those should be for frontends only, i.e. in the Packages.gz and
> controll.tar.gz.
As would "Nature" IMHO - where else would you see it used ?
Regards,
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