NM and DAM process situation is not as bad as people complain :)
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 01:51:19PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:17:09PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Or were you suggesting that Eray's application should simply be
> > rejected, and the file closed?
>
> Personally, I'd rather be rejected than having to wait another a year
> for an approval that might never come. At least a rejection would
> probably come with an explanation, and having one would finally give
> me a reason to move on (away from Debian in that case).
Calm down :) Think about becoming FAST-TRACK by persuasion.
I too like to see transparent system (FAST/SLOW track thing.) But, the
situation is not as bad as people complain. (See below stat.)
I think you need to look into the fact. We all know DAM restarted
sometime April/May 2002 after woody release. Most people who have gone
through NM process did it within a year, or effectively 6 month after
the restart of NM.
There are 4 NM candidates including you, Andrew Lau, who applied before
11/30/2001 and who seem to be clean and have decent advocate. (those are
hard to tell from the nm.debian.org page).
I do not think DAM is giving same day approval as it say on web page (I
think this is due to the recent fire and lost data.)
Apparently, slow track takes up to 6 month on DAM's table. But many
people get approval within 2-3 month on DAM's table.(Me too.)
I remember you mention you were away from Debian for a while. I see
your posts a lot only recently on ML. So, if you contribute and
cooperate with other for few months, you should be OK.
Cheers,
Osamu
FYI: Statistics (Sat Dec 14 21:57:05 PST 2002)
========================================================
New Maintainers
--------------------------------------------------------
rcvd to dam dam approval
2002-08-11 2002-10-19 2002-10-19
2002-08-02 2002-10-19 2002-10-19
2002-07-23 2002-11-16 2002-12-02
2002-07-17 2002-11-05 2002-12-02
2002-07-15 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
2002-07-14 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
2002-07-12 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
2002-07-11 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
2002-07-07 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
2002-07-04 2002-09-22 2002-09-22
...
2002-05-07 2002-10-19 2002-10-19 (AM assign 2002-05-07: wrong)
This is me. I was on DAM for 2-3 month.
(This proves "AM assign" and "recommends to DAM" date for NM are not re-entered)
...
2002-02-14 2002-09-21
2002-02-04 2002-09-21
2002-02-03 2002-10-20
2002-01-29 2002-10-19
2002-01-10 2002-10-19
2002-01-07 2002-10-19
2002-01-04 2002-10-20
2001-12-08 2002-10-19
2001-11-22 2002-10-19
2000-12-31 2002-08-17 (e-mail change recorded)
total 45 people in recently became NM
=====================================================================
NM long in cue (ones with everything checked-out)
applied to dam last date of contact etc.
... (33 more people newer than Andrew already finished AM)
...
2001-11-30 2001-12-30 (advocate has many packages) *** Andrew Lau
2001-11-13 2001-11-14 sign 2001-12-13 message of AM on Dec. 5
(advocate has no packages)
2001-10-09 2001-10-09 (advocate has many packages)
2001-10-08 2002-05-25 replies again [2002/03/19] (advocate has many packages)
2001-10-01 2001-12-17 (advocate has many packages)
2001-07-05 2001-10-24 (advocate has no packages)
2001-06-07 2002-01-01 (advocate has 4 packages)
****************************************************
2001-04-17 2001-08-30 (advocate is sunset below this)
2001-01-03 2002-01-30 ..
2001-01-02 2001-12-16 ..
2000-12-23 2001-11-04 7/2: Hmm, mail is bouncing
2000-10-18 2001-01-24
2000-09-20 2001-01-04 2001-12-09 remove hold
2000-08-28 2001-07-06 e-mail bounced
2000-08-25 get 5 sponsors
2000-08-11 2001-03-14 No reply at P&P stage (Why marked all?)
2000-01-15 2002-11-26 (resumed)
Many older ones are advocated by sunset who is not in db.debian.org
database. (Does this indicate these are before the introduction of
advocate?)
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