Re: New package "unicornscan" , I GIVE UP !
Am Mittwoch, 5. Dezember 2007 schrieb Leo "costela" Antunes:
> Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> > I suppose, this is all to difficult and complicated for me. As the
> > package is new, I get MD5-errors and more. So, as this process is too
> > difficult for me, and is taking to much of long time, I give up.
>
> Sorry to hear that.
>
> > Sorry, I am not willing to collect all the different docs and reaqd, this
> > is boring and for one package it is too much of a thing.
>
> Unfortunately, if you want to maintain a package for Debian, that means
> you have to be responsible for their state in Debian, understanding how
> the packaging process works and so on. So yes, that takes some reading.
> Remember that Debian is a big group of people. We need some sort of
> organization to be able to work together effectively, so it may take a
> bit of learning in order to successfully interact with this community,
> even if you just want to get a simple piece of software inside it.
>
So please do not misunderstand me. I am really willing to read a lot, when it
is necessary, and actually, in the past I really read a lot. But many things
are not answered in the manuals. So I had had the hope, someone might to lead
the first steps, just as mentors do.
> If you don't want to be the maintainer for the package, and instead only
> want to have it packaged, you can file a RFP (request for package) bug
> to the package 'wnpp'.
> Simply using 'reportbug wnpp' and filling in the proper fields should be
> enough. It should guide you through.
>
I do not understand, how it works. The docu mentioned this, too, but there was
no backjground about the process or policy to find.
> > Anyway, if someone likes to have a look at the package, I will sent him
> > as an email, if not, no problem: It is running on my computer.
> >
> > I was just intend to take part in the community, but it seem not to work.
>
> Again, taking a part in the community takes a bit of learning.
> There are many people that want to take part in it and all of them have
> questions like you. Many of these questions have already been answered
> somewhere, so instead of taking our time to answer personally to each
> and every question (time that could be spent improving the quality of
> Debian, and which I'm ironically losing myself) we simply direct people
> to places where they can find the answers themselves and in the process
> they show that they are willing to make an effort to contribute to the
> community by learning.
>
Yes, I know. And I am also knowing, that my little work is not important for
Debian. But I think: If everyone is doing a little bit work for Debian, as
litle as it might be, the whole work together will bring the Debian idea
further on. My little part is more in user teaching and supporting in my home
area, and not coding. Now I wanted to enter a new task. O.k., I failed.
> > And please: Do not write me, "read here", "read there", "read
> > somewhere!", really, for some few questions, I am not willing to read
> > hours lots of stuff.
>
> If you are not willing to make this effort, it seems you're not willing
> to be a part of the community, but perhaps I understand you wrong: if
> you're just frustrated because you can't find the answer to your
> question where people pointed you to, or because people seem to have
> misunderstood your question, please don't hesitate to ask again. But be
> patient. We're all volunteers, your questions can take some time to be
> answered. You gave up in less then 2 hours, from what I see in your emails.
Yes, I gave up. I had the feeling, no one was interested in new packages at
all, so I gave up. And yes, I had no fun and the package worked on my
system....
>
> Remember: your "some few questions" may seem straightforward to you, but
> the answers may not be and if they've already been answered somewhere
> else, what would be the difference between answering them in a personal
> email to you, or reading them in a different place? Just the work of the
> person writing you an answer (in this case: me).
>
Thanks, I will remember that. Again: I AM willing to read, but I need help in
the beginning, too.
>
> At any rate, if you're not interested in making an effort with this
> package, I might take it over and package it myself. It seems
> interesting, but I'll need to take a better look before committing to it.
>
O.k., I will try a new effort, but when it fails again, I will send you the
whole stuff. Thanky for this !
> Cheers
>
> --
> Leo "costela" Antunes
> [insert a witty retort here]
Best regards
Hans (frustrated)
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