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Re: jessie-updates gone

On Wed, 2019-04-03 at 00:02 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2019 at 12:23:46AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Debian LTS is a team within Debian.  It's separate from the main
> > security team and the stable release managers, but it is no less
> > part
> > of Debian.
> Sure, I do understand that. My employer is one of the LTS sponsors.
> However what I am saying is, there are clearly quite a few users of
> Debian who were surprised and confused about jessie-updates going
> away. I think that means those users also did not know that they
> transitioned from relying on the security team and release managers
> to the LTS team.
> Clearly the LTS team cannot provide the same level of support,

I don't think this is clearly the case.

> so
> wouldn't you agree that it is important that users realise when they
> go from one state to another?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that if some users don't realise it is a
failure on our part.

> > The transition to extended support by the LTS team has always been
> > announced, in any case:
> Absolutely, but these users did not read those announcements, or
> else I think they wouldn't have been so confused by jessie-updates
> going away.

If users don't read announcements then the EOL will come as a surprise

> Personally I'm not bothered either way about whether
> "<distro>-updates" remains something that can be in sources.list
> without causing update errors, but I am more concerned that a lot of
> users may have ended up transitioning to LTS without realising that,
> and wonder if there is any good way to help reduce that.

I don't think this is the big problem that you think it is.


Ben Hutchings
Q.  Which is the greater problem in the world today,
    ignorance or apathy?
A.  I don't know and I couldn't care less.

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