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Re: File open dialog: Where is my tab extension



On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:56:49PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> writes:
> > Do you really think you will make ...  the Debian GNOME Team change
> > the way upstream GNOME behaves in a major way?
 
> Debian already did some dialogue-box futzing, with the GTK open
> dialogue.
 
One thing why this is not good to have frequently is the divergence from
the (very good) GNOME documentation. Either it will mean quite some work
to keep those changes in sync with the upstream documentation, or our
users will be confused by the differences.

> If it were the case that (1) There was a Gnome `feature' that a large
> portion of Debian's user-base didn't like (2) Gnome refused to address
> the issue (perhaps because they viewed their user-base as being
> something different), (3) a reasonable method existed to make such a
> change (I've heard rumors that the new open dialogue is somewhat more
> pluggable), and (4) someone did the work, then ... why not?

So first of all, what issue are we talking about exactly? I guess I have
lost track. 

	Is it that ^L is non-obvious? 

I agree that having a 'Help' button in the file-selector dialog which
explains things (or at least have it pop up when somebody hits F1) would
help here.

	Or that the respective widget is not there by default? 

This is deliberate design choice by upstream, based on their usability
experts. IMHO, Debian should not revert this. Anyway, it's up to the
Debian GNOME team to decide this.

	Or that you cannot configure it easily via the
Desktop-Preferences?

This is another design choice by upstream. And a correct one I think.

	Or that the tab-completion in the ^L widget is working not very
well?

This would be a bug which should be fixed. Personally, I have not seen
this, but as I said elsewhere, I do not use this Open-Location widget a
lot.

	Or something else alltogether?


I suggest the following course of action:

1. Somebody looks whether an upstream and/or Debian bug is reported
about the missing help for the file-selector dialog. If not, report it
and see what upstream thinks about this.

2. Somebody checks whether one of the above issues has been
fixed/changed in the GNOME 2.7 development releases, and proposes to
backport the fix/changes to the Debian unstable/sarge packages, at the
discretion of the Debian GNOME team.

Andreas, Martin-Eric, Sven: Would one of you volunteer to do this?


Michael



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