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Re: Skolelinux jobs for students



Hi,

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> Le mer 08/09/2004 à 14:54, Gavin McCullagh a écrit :
> 
> > Would it not make more sense just to rename the group?  I guess you could
> > make a metaphor but what you're talking about seems to be just a simple
> > group rename eg "year1" -> "year2".
> 
> Do you think it is something technicaly doeable at a teacher level?
> A lot of primary school do not have support for this first level
> administration stuff. It will be a serious poroblem.

It may be helpful to have a webmin util which allows renaming of a group (I
don't have a machine to check, it might already be there).  However, I
think it would be a mistake to try and create a smoke and mirrors "New
School Year Wizard".  It would be better to help people understand how
a few simple tasks can achieve what they want.

Perhaps a document or faq section describing tips for the end of the year
would make more sense.  This could suggest the renaming scheme or suggest
once and for all renaming to Petter's rather more clever method.  

I take your point that teachers are often not technical people but they
cannot manage a computer network without learning some of how it works.
There is inevitably some learning curve.

> > I suppose you could do something like have an optional common directory for
> > each unix group.  This could appear as a link in the home directory (and
> > perhaps on the desktop) if it exists.
> 
> Yes, this is the resulting effect we should have and teachers expect to
> have when dealing with sharing document.

I suspect there are ten or more differing schemes which different teachers
might `expect'.  This I think was Petter's point.  The above is an example
of one.  I doubt it would work well for everyone.

> > > Then a tool in webminuser interface to let the admin update a user
> > > Desktop profil from one in /etc/skolelinux/profils/. Update will be
> > > delete user .kde and copy the new one.
> [..]
> > I imagine doing this through webmin might be quite painful to keep
> > maintained as KDE changes.
> 
> No , kdeschool will be a complement part. The webmin part will just
> install the kdeschool generated menu in the users account space.

Does kschoolmenu not already achieve this, only more efficiently, not
copying the menu over to the home dir?

Gavin



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