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Re: Skolelinux jobs for students



Hi,

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> Le mer 08/09/2004 à 11:04, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
> 
> > > 1. In the webmin user interface. Once a year, at the beginning of the
> > > scholar year, we need a way to move one student from one class group to
> > > the next one. We would like a tool letting us do it in mass (ie. move
> > > all students from group Year-8 to Year-9)

> > What about using start/end groups instead?  graduates-2009 or
> > started-2000.  This way, you only need to update the rights given to
> > these groups, and not their members.
> 
> Hum, this is not really teacher friendly. In lot of school there a re
> not admin, and the student refistration is done by the teachers.
> 
> A metaphore modeled on the school organization is probably more around
> school level. 

Would it not make more sense just to rename the group?  I guess you could
make a metaphor but what you're talking about seems to be just a simple
group rename eg "year1" -> "year2".

> Not to mention that some student may not go to the next class.

Well, you can't deal with that automatically.  You either do all
automatically or none.  Exceptions would have to be transferred by hand.

> > > 2. Students from a class Year-8 should have access to a common
> > > folder Year-8. So teacher and students of a same class can exchange
> > > documents through this shared area. This should be a default
> > > behavior in Skolelinux.
> > 
> > Hard to do in a generic way that works across several school systems.
> > But it is not very hard to set up per school.
> 
> Ok, it could be a subjet for a job student. How to modelize into
> Skolelinux

I suppose you could do something like have an optional common directory for
each unix group.  This could appear as a link in the home directory (and
perhaps on the desktop) if it exists.

> > > 3. In the webmin user interface, we need a profil mangager so we can
> > > quiclky update the Desktop of a student or a group of students.
> > 
> > What kind of updates to the desktop do you have in mind?
 
> Set various Desktop preferences configuration in
> /etc/skolelinux/profils/ (mainly kde related stuff as menu and so on)
> 
> Then a tool in webminuser interface to let the admin update a user
> Desktop profil from one in /etc/skolelinux/profils/. Update will be
> delete user .kde and copy the new one.

There is a clever little tool in the KDE control center called kschoolmenu.
This allows you to create a customised KDE applications menu on the basis
of _one_ unix group.  Petter asked me recently if I could maintain it as it
is currently orphaned.  I regret to say that I am a little short of time
currently so haven't really done anything yet apart from read up on
packaging.  I guess it could perhaps be extended to add other things.  It
is currently working in Venus though.

I imagine doing this through webmin might be quite painful to keep
maintained as KDE changes.

> Yes, right NX is probablt the solution for now. VNC could be another
> option.

VNC is not so good over narrow bandwidths though.

Gavin



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