Quoting Pirate Praveen (2014-09-04 15:39:01) > 2014-09-04 00:56 या दिवशी Vipin Nair ने लिहीले : >> Yes we do not have a lots of people with expertise or the willingness >> to do this and I sincerely appreciate what you guys are doing. Having >> said that, I do not understand what we are trying to achieve by >> calling this event 'Mini DebConf' and it not being Debian centric. >> Giving it a generic name which also includes a Debian track is >> perfectly fine, but when you call it 'Mini DebConf', you are setting >> the expectations wrong. > > We are strongly suggesting Debian part of the Free Software community > and we are providing rest of the Free Software community a chance to > interact with debian community and share each others experience. > > It Mini Debian Conference because the debian community is organizing > the event and invite the rest of the Free Software community to come > and join us. > >> >> I would any day pick a small room with enthusiasts and interested >> folks hacking on Debian in one corner over a big event with hundreds >> of people with minimal Debian. > > Sure, go ahead and organize such events. Nobody is stopping you or > anyone. Noone is stopping you either. >> Also, I do not agree with the "Its all free software and Debian >> supports Free software, so free software talks are fine" argument. >> Tomorrow if I create my own OS with the Linux kernel and call it >> Debian, is it acceptable? Its not because: >> >> 1) Its not the right thing to do because its not 'Debian'. >> 2) Its a trademark[1] and I am not legally allowed to do it. > > The difference is, the debian community is organizing this event to > reach out to the rest of the Free Software community. Linus Torvalds > was invited to talk at this years debconf not because he is a debian > contributor as per your definition (he even uses Fedora and he was > talking about linux kernel not packaging linux kernel in debian). Linus' talk was not part of the official programme. Only official guest speaker this year was, I believe, Biella. I doubt those two guest speakers took up 1/3 or even 1/10 of the programme, official or not. >> There may not be registered trademarks for the names 'Debconf' and >> 'Mini DebConf' so legally we are fine with it but is it the right >> thing to do because there is nothing legally preventing us from doing >> so? >> >> In case you are still not convinced, have at look at other Mini >> DebConf's organized around the world, have a look into the kind of >> talks they have had, compare it to this list and see if you can see >> any resemblance. > > There is some merit in this argument, so may be we should call it as > "Debian Exchange" or something, which means "debian is inviting > everyone to learn and share at an event it is organizing". > > Another difference from the rest of the conferences is that, there are > many contributors to make those event debian only. Some Debconfs add a "Debian Day" for mingling between debianistas and locals. But that's *Debconfs* not MiniDebconfs where a day easily means 1/3 of the whole event. The last MiniDebconf in Barcelona had invited some of the local non-Debian FOSS groups to present themselves during the lighting talk session. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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