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Re: Installation of Recommends by default on October 1st

On Thu, Aug 02, 2007, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Is there any reason why this isn't handled by a
> /usr/share/bug/gnome/script (or whatever is appropriate) which tells
> the user to install the -dbg package if they aren't currently
> installed so backtraces can be generated?

 While this is an interesting suggestion (which I'm taking note of!),
 it might not be enough when users are using specific reporting tools:
 bug-buddy comes to mind for example.

> Once you've got the corefile, you can always mate the -dbg to it after
> the fact.

 Hmm I don't expect the majority of users to know how to do this nor how
 to enable core dumps in the default config.

 This very discussion reminds me that we lack a serious debugging
 infrastructure like major projects or companies have: Mozilla, Ubuntu,
 Apple, Microsoft...  We really need new tools:
 - to collect segfault data using a different channel than bug reports
   (for example to merge multiple reports into one, to find top
   crashers, to protect sensitive information, ...)
 - to get crashes with useful information (propose installing -dbg
   packages, collect crash specific information such as
   ~/.xsession-errors for desktop apps)
 - etc.

Loïc Minier

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