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Dissection of an Ubuntu PR message

Let's take this one apart and see what it is that pisses people off so

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 09:57:35AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> There are still rather intense emotional responses to Ubuntu within the
> Debian community, as evidenced in this thread and others.

First a dismissal of dissenters as 'emotional' (deliberate flame,
thinly veiled so as to pay lip service to their 'code of conduct').

> However, there
> seems to be a trend toward more effective collaboration at the individual
> level, as many Debian maintainers now recognize that Ubuntu developers are,
> by and large, standing by and willing to work with them, and that such
> collaboration requires active participation from both sides.

This is a statement that "some people who work for Ubuntu also work on
Debian, or assist people who are working on Debian", which is what
we'd expect of any company that employs people interested in Debian -
not much of a claim really. It also takes the opportunity to blame the
Debian maintainers for failing to cooperate with Ubuntu ones, in those
cases where such 'collaboration' does not occur.

> In comparison with other Debian derivatives, past and present, the fact that
> this kind of discussion has been happening at all, with both parties
> involved, is a significant step forward.

And this is just insulting Progeny (and the rest) while promoting the
superiority of Ubuntu. It's also wrong.

I don't think it's any real surprise that people dislike this sort of

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