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Re: Canonical's business model



Em Qua, 2006-01-11 às 19:54 -0300, Daniel Ruoso escreveu:
> Em Qua, 2006-01-11 às 14:36 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG escreveu:
> > Gustavo Franco <gustavorfranco@gmail.com> writes:
> > > It was already discussed[0], and there's no consensus on this idea of
> > > "every Ubuntu changeset, a patch in Debian BTS" between DDs. 
> > Right.  I want Ubuntu to exercise judgment, and not just give a big
> > pile of patches, some of which are Debian-relevant and some of which
> > are not.  Think, for example, of the normal way a Debian developer
> > should interact with upstream.
> 
> This is exactly the point, what can I do with a patch if I don't know
> why it's there? Which problem is it trying to address (I know, I can
> read the patch and guess, but WTF), and why such solution was adopted...
> Everytime I submit a patch, I also submit this reasoning...

That's sometimes documented in the changelog. I benefited quite a lot
from the ubuntu patches for gksu, and I've worked quite nicely with
seb128 and mvo on issues like this one and update-manager.

Now, I cannot tell if Canonical is claiming more than it is doing, and I
do have my concerns about some of their decisions and ways of working;
I'd just like to point out that cooperation with an 'external' entity
has never been as intense and helpful as it is being with
Canonical/Ubuntu.

I mostly agree with Gustavo Franco on this issue: we should try to reach
them and tell them what our needs and wishes are, and estabilish links
where possible.

See you,

-- 
kov@debian.org: Gustavo Noronha <http://people.debian.org/~kov>
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