Re: LCC and blobs
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:53:51 +0100, Peter Van Eynde <firstname.lastname@example.org> said:
> Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
>> Peter Van Eynde <email@example.com> writes:
>>> And now you consider it software just because the method of
>>> storage is different? How can the nature of the bytes change
>>> because they are stored on a disk?
>> The nature of the bytes do not change. But my name, distributed in
>> a Debian package, is software. My name, written in letters of
> You name is software! Now I'm a Common Lisp hacker, you know the
> data is code people, but even _we_ do not consider a string software
> unless it drives some software.
> Is your name input for a state-machine?
>> Architectural plans for a house, shipped in a Debian package, are
> I'm stunned. So anything in a Debian package is software. With alien
> I can convert a tar.gz into a debian package, so all tar files are
> software. With tar I can create a tar.gz from any file, so all
> electronic data is software?
Yes. Software, hardware, wetware. One of these three.
> And you restrictions that any package that depends on non-DFSG
> "software" to work cannot be in main means that after releasing
> sarge we have to remove from main:
> - all bootloaders. Grub cannot start my XP without the XP
Umm, you have configured grub to use optional software. Grub
on my boxes can boot my machines just fine, so there is no general
> - tftpd. I want to netboot my Solaris machines. The tftpd needs the
> solaris code to "work".
In that case. I can have tftpd booting Linux kernels -- so
tftpd does not need solaris, though it can be so configured.
> - all font renderers. I want to see a document with the font I
> bought, and without it the document is broken, so the renderer
> needs the font, > right?
Wrong again, but that's just the patternm. The font renderer
can render any fonts, including non-free ones.
> - all interpreters. I want to run HACMP. It is in perl, so the perl
> is useless to me without HACMP.
I think you really really need a course in logic and
> - the kernel. I want to ship a stripped down debian with my non-DFSG
> code in an embedded system. The kernel is useless without my code,
> so the kernel cannot be in main.
The kernel is, in general useful without non-free software.
> Should I go on?
Sure, but preferably after you have taken some courses in
"At least they're ___________EXPERIENCED
Manoj Srivastava <firstname.lastname@example.org> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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